There is this attitude with Trials people have thats pretty much a turn off on the western side of the community. There was one attempt made on gaurda hard mode and it continued forward but people started leaving. And even before the attempt failed lv3 Healer Limit Break was casted. And everyone just stood there not trying to turn the tables. What is the deal with that? are people in this western community that impatient or that lazy to not attempt to keep going?
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10-03-2013, 04:28 PMArecGaurda Hard Mode
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10-03-2013, 04:40 PMSimos
Unfortunatelly this is a problem right now in the game.
I believe it all comes from the non-geared people who DF for it, as the game allows everyone queue for everything.
The main issue though is that people expect to us DF get in a group and be that lucky that they will get 7 more OP people and kill fast.
I think your best bet is to make a group by your own shouting on mor dhona and you will have much more success. -
10-03-2013, 05:27 PMArec
Its even in titan hard mode, when someone comes in for the first time and its the firs wipe they get on your case about it. And the 2nd run was going fairly well until i accidentally made a faulty step. And they start ragging on me about how my gears suck, and all that stuff. Pissing me off and i cant even focus when everyone bashing me when someone makes a motion like that. Then the healer becomes public enemy number one. I been getting through all the hard modes through 2-3 tries.. And people have been nice and respectful. And its hard for me to work well as a healer dodging and healing everyone when someone is ragging on me. Western community needs to get real. or Im going to start reporting people for harassment.
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10-04-2013, 12:13 AMSymbiant
Lol you should have know when you took the healer job that it will always be either you or the tanks fault as to why the raid failed.
As far as people being pricks well that's pretty much standard practice on today's mmo's. I don't think any culture is worse about it tbh. I have seen it from one end of the earth to the other.
My suggestion is to grow callus or you might as well throw in the towel early before your give your self a stroke. Elitist and self entitlement will never change on today's mmo's. The "now"
generation has permanently altered the fabric of mmo's.
If it's to easy the cry about it being to easy. If it's to hard they cry about it being to hard. If its in the middle aka perfect they will cry about it being to hard or to easy. In other words games
will never be perfect for each person. I think to sum it up with a word "Darwinism" -
10-04-2013, 04:12 AMEstellios
Looking at your character on Lodestone, if it is up-to-date you do need better gear for Titan. 3.2-3.4k HP is what non-tanks need. If you can get the rest of the set in Amdapor or a Darklight piece or two more you should be ok.
I don't know if you could survive Earthen Fury or the Tumult spam in the final phase as-is. It's nearly impossible to win if you as a healer die too early in or right before the last phase.
More HP is also just insurance in case you get hit with Weight of the Land which will happen to the best of us. -
10-04-2013, 04:39 AMLunavi
Yes they are. Fact is that most gamers just like fast paced fun. People nowadays wants their reward NOW. Dw, those people will leave soon. They just want to finish their game in the 30 free days they got.
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10-04-2013, 04:46 AMSinthYour gear does suck. You are no where near ready for Titan. It is not elitist to tell you that you are undergeared when you are. I just cant wait for ilvl requirements for instances so I can stop reading posts by undergeared players complaining that people told them they were undergeared for an encounter that they are undergeared for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arec
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10-04-2013, 06:29 AMEtgar
I don't know why you even tried Titan in that gear, you would die the moment heart went down, assuming you get there.
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10-04-2013, 08:52 AMSylvannaYour gear sucks. Your skills may allow you to get through the heart phase, but you will probably die to tumults on the last phase. If other people berate you for being undergeared, it is your own fault for attempting to PUG Titan HM whilst severely undergeared. You're better off spending that time running Amdapor Keep for more gear. Or farm CM, Praetorium for Philo tomes for Darklight gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arec
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10-04-2013, 10:23 AMBlossomRose
I'm going to join the people who are pointing out that your gear is sub-par for Titan.
I'm not saying this to be an elitist prick. I'm not saying you need to be in full DL gear with your relic to beat Titan (nevermind the fact the relic comes after).
But I am saying, at the VERY LEAST, be in your AK gear, and a LITTLE BIT of DL. -
10-04-2013, 10:35 AMShadowblind
Just started Titan. Before that I wondered why people were about the gear on this fight. It's insanity even WITH high gear. I'm decently well geared, have 5100HP and have tanked titan passed heart quite consistently, but I'm STILL on the lower end of readiness for Titan, and for good reason. You can't mess up in that fight, and even if you don't mess up with skill, with low gear you WILL die on tumults or occasional WoTL.
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10-04-2013, 11:53 AMTigerwong
Apart from the fact that you are not ready for Titan, at this moment, heals and tanks is all to blame for wipes. Just hope recount comes out faster. Then we can kick those geared idiot dps. :D
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10-04-2013, 02:32 PMBlossomRose5100 HP is enough to tank Titan. I did it at 4900 on my first kill. The important part is to have a cooldown up for EVERY SINGLE MOUNTAIN BUSTER. It requires careful juggling of your cooldowns, but trust me once you get a hang of it, it makes the fight almost trivial on your end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowblind
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10-04-2013, 05:19 PMFaeonMake a lvl 2 warrior, get a extra coo ldown to use:)Quote:
Originally Posted by BlossomRose
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10-04-2013, 05:23 PMFaeonTo be honest, I have not come across a problem with tanks / healers that much, most of the times its dps and sometimes healers getting killed by the aoe. In titan a tank has the easiest job todo, except for the last phase, when he needs to know when the MB comes in to pop a cooldown, to mitigate some of the damage.Quote:
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10-04-2013, 05:35 PMMaplekoyaMB will always come after a landslide after the last phase, flash as he uses landslide and pop a CD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faeon
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10-04-2013, 08:08 PMFaeonThat is correct, it is always MB at the start of the fight, Turmult,WOL,Bombs,LS,MB etc. know that stuff so well already .Quote:
Originally Posted by Maplekoya
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10-04-2013, 09:59 PMBlossomRoseLook at my signature. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Faeon
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10-05-2013, 01:06 AMCyanDvai
I'm on Titan now and only have 2 pieces of DL and a few odds and ends here from AK. I know I'm not ready to tank him, I wont attempt Titan until I have at least my DL legs and AK body.
Only way I'll go into Titan with the gear I have now is if one of the LS's I'm in that farms him is kind enough to give me a spot so I can learn his mechanics. -
10-05-2013, 01:10 AMSinthOMG a player whose common sense takes precedence over his sense of entitlement. I didn't think these people existed in FFXIV.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyanDvai
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10-05-2013, 01:25 AMKazai
I'm also waiting to get a bit more gear. I can go tank and go dps Garuda no prob but this week I'm going to farm CM and get those DL peices before I even try to go gain Titan experience.
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10-05-2013, 03:07 AMCyanDvaiI'm an old school MMO player. Started out with Ultima Online.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinth
There are gear limitations for every fight. It's one thing to tell someone their gear isn't good enough, it's another to be an asshole about it. There are a lot of assholes in this game when it comes to this perceived "elitism" that's been going around.
I find the "instant gratification" generation annoying, we could do with out them, if you want something, put the work in and earn it in game. If you're gear isn't good enough, do something else and get better gear. These people are use to being carried through life, it's sad.
I also have my beef with the so called "elitists", it's fine if you want people to be properly geared, but everyone has to learn the fight at some point. So come down off your high horse and STFU. -
10-05-2013, 08:11 PMSephirahJust echoing this, with my food buff I was at 4995 hp my first titan kill. It's ALL about managing your cooldowns around mountain buster.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlossomRose