Help with Bard Darklight Set please!

Hi guys!
Capped my 2k, want to know what pieces to get and what i should skip.
I heard some pieces are really bad.
Thanks in advance

Well, they're all upgrades for you. Probably start off with the 2x825s since you already have that much.

Get the body and legs, they're the two biggest pains to save up for, and significant upgrades from AF as well.

I heaard people wont take the legs due to their stats

What? And you're gonna keep your AK legs on instead?

Bro you should be aiming for full darklight, everything except one ring, since there's only one dex DL ring.

Then you can think about entering coil

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Originally Posted by Anjexu

What? And you're gonna keep your AK legs on instead?

Bro you should be aiming for full darklight, everything except one ring, since there's only one dex DL ring.

Then you can think about entering coil

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Hmm. . .4 DEX, 2 Acc (probably over the cap anyway), and 18 Det; versus 24 Crit

So basically, 4Dex+18Det versus 24Crit. . .

I'm no expert in stat weighting, but that looks like a side-grade to me, honestly.

Toxote Gloves > Darklight Gloves

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Hmm. . .4 DEX, 2 Acc (probably over the cap anyway), and 18 Det; versus 24 Crit

So basically, 4Dex+18Det versus 24Crit. . .

I'm no expert in stat weighting, but that looks like a side-grade to me, honestly.

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Your main stat is the most important thing u can aim for, even ONLY 4 pt of dex are like godly vs 24, or even 50 crit...

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Originally Posted by Serah_Kerrigan

Toxote Gloves > Darklight Gloves

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Darklight has a higher dps according to blitzball.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Hmm. . .4 DEX, 2 Acc (probably over the cap anyway), and 18 Det; versus 24 Crit

So basically, 4Dex+18Det versus 24Crit. . .

I'm no expert in stat weighting, but that looks like a side-grade to me, honestly.

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The 4 dex alone is worth 24 crit.

i am going to be buying the most expense stuff. then getting the cheaper stuff will not take as long

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Originally Posted by Jabba

Your main stat is the most important thing u can aim for, even ONLY 4 pt of dex are like godly vs 24, or even 50 crit...

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Originally Posted by energeisT

The 4 dex alone is worth 24 crit.

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Hmm. . .I'll take your words for it. I'm probably just staring at my accuracy and hating the idea of adding any more. >_>

From what I see around. 1WD=6stat 1stat=4other stat.


I'm having a hard time with DL>Toxo in hands/legs also, 35crit vs 6Dex 26Det. (8.75 vs 12.5) If you look like it like this it's a winner but..

DL Hands:2Dex/8Det =4
Toxo Hands: 11Crit/15Skill speed(meh)=6.5[even if we take the skill speed away it would be 2.75]

DL Legs:4Dex/18Det=8.5
Toxo Legs:24crit=6

I think the real question is "how much of a difference is 35crit really going to make?".

We got to think Higher crit=higher chance of BL reset. Where not counting acc cause your prolly capped or over capped.

Maybe Gryphonskin hands/legs as fillers, with crit melds? Can't find a hq pair showing stat caps.

http://i.imgur.com/z3kbdFR.png

Top darklight bracers
Bottom: toxotes bracers

What stats and program are you using to get that readout?

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

What stats and program are you using to get that readout?

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http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=202

Stats were

433/431 dexterity
250/242 determination
41 weapon power
44.82 auto attack
429/440 critical hit rate
367/382 skill speed

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=202

Stats were

433/431 dexterity
250/242 determination
41 weapon power
44.82 auto attack
429/440 critical hit rate
367/382 skill speed

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The formula will produce numbers that are consistently 1-2 points off. I am not sure why, but since the error is a consistent systematic error and not a random error, this should not be much of a concern.

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Also, the methodology section shows all testing was done with melee damage, not ranged. While there is a good possibility they function similarly, that combined with the fact that it's a best guess at best, means you should take it with a grain of salt.

Better than pure conjecture.

Also, if you look at this page.

http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=260

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For Bard and Archer, plug your DEX value into the STR boxes.

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it specifically mentions substituting STR for DEX for range. Both pages are using the same formula.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=202

Stats were

433/431 dexterity
250/242 determination
41 weapon power
44.82 auto attack
429/440 critical hit rate
367/382 skill speed

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So, I do get the results you posted with the numbers you gave (didn't doubt that, just testing to see if any buffs were checked).

Then I put in my actual numbers:

441 Dex
224 Det
40 weapon power
43.73 AA damage
482 crit rate
385 skill speed
150 WS Potency

The numbers I got returned were:
176 AVG WS DMG
130 AVG AA DMG

The problem is, I can't get my Heavy Shot damage that low. I can't. The lowest I'm seeing is about 205 damage. That's a 30-damage error before factoring in any critical damage. I would normally agree that it's better than conjecture, but not when it's so far off. The auto-attack numbers are within the 1-2 point variation he mentions, but the WS damage is way off.

While my hat's off to Valk and all the theorycrafting work he does, we should all admit that his page is out of date. . .

He is assuming DEX and STR are interchangeable, unless he did not post his findings that they are.

Edit: It's probably a safe assumption, and it is better than nothing, but I wouldn't treat it like he had tested it.

if you got it saved up, af2 is better then DL chest(cept its fking PINK!!, like wtf SE?), same with legs and head and maybe feet, af2 gloves are la suck

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Originally Posted by magicninja999

if you got it saved up, af2 is better then DL chest(cept its fking PINK!!, like wtf SE?), same with legs and head and maybe feet, af2 gloves are la suck

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What's wrong with the AF2 gloves?

I don't remember lol, im at work right now, I cant see it.... maybe it was gloves that were ok and feet bad, I cant remember

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

The problem is, I can't get my Heavy Shot damage that low. I can't. The lowest I'm seeing is about 205 damage. That's a 30-damage error before factoring in any critical damage. I would normally agree that it's better than conjecture, but not when it's so far off. The auto-attack numbers are within the 1-2 point variation he mentions, but the WS damage is way off.

While my hat's off to Valk and all the theorycrafting work he does, we should all admit that his page is out of date. . .

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The WS variation is due to your passive 20% action damage bonus. Taking the Valk numbers gives you an average of 211 Heavy Shot damage with the ARC trait.

did that take into account the dps of BL reset when dots proc?

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Originally Posted by ziddyt

The WS variation is due to your passive 20% action damage bonus. Taking the Valk numbers gives you an average of 211 Heavy Shot damage with the ARC trait.

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Okay, manually setting the WS Potency to 180 does give me a better fit. That being said. . .

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Originally Posted by Sterob

did that take into account the dps of BL reset when dots proc?

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. . .no, it doesn't. I'm also not sure what's going on with his buffs, either. Including Internal Release adds about a 7% crit rate, so I assume he's prorating that, but then Straight Shot should have 100% uptime (or close), yet he seems to be prorating that at the IR rate. Then, RS, B4B, and HE don't seem to get prorated at all. . .

Basically, while I'd love to use this tool, it seems too inaccurate at the moment to be worthwhile.