Well I finally broke down and installed a SSD to try to help the PS3 cope with all characters onscreen. It was such a pain for me to target mobs that would be invisible or the lag from fates. The loading screens are now 1.5-2.5 secs tops. I haven't been able to test the more laggy fates yet, but I've done a few dungeons and my performance upgrade is noticeable. The characters(npcs) still drop out to conserve RAM from a distance, but they pop back much faster when you're close to them. I no longer run to a npc quest marker and need to wait a long time for npc to pop. This applies to fates too where you turn in supplies. I'm still going to update to the PS4, but installing a SSD was the best thing a PS3 player can do to help their performance. I thought I've give some hope out to other PS3 users who struggle to do fates. I picked up a Samsung 120GB 840 series.
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10-02-2013, 05:40 AMShintaruPS3 Users SDD
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10-02-2013, 05:44 AMCairdeasI may do this with my shiny new paycheck. Just have to find one with a $/GB that isn't outrageous. If I have too I'll Zombie the drive out of my laptop and basically swap them out because my laptop had a 500gb ssd from dell :xQuote:
Originally Posted by Shintaru
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10-02-2013, 06:02 AMShintaru
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10-02-2013, 06:09 AMOrophin
The recent Samsungs have proven to be pretty solid.
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10-02-2013, 06:26 AMFirefly
Which PS3 do you have? Mine is the old 40GB model (no backward compatibility). I've wanted to upgrade mine for awhile but with PS4 out soon I wasn't sure if it was worth it. If it did that much difference for you, I might consider it, though.
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10-02-2013, 06:30 AMComicbookguy
I have a 30 gig SSD laying around. How easy is it to install to the PS3?
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10-02-2013, 06:33 AMGilraen
Installing an SSD is no different from installing an HDD. You just have to make sure to use a SATA drive. I recently installed one on my old 60g PS3, though admittedly not for this game, and the game barely spends any time on loading screens. Models load pretty quickly, too and barely any time is used to switch up textures between distance and close-in.
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10-02-2013, 06:53 AMkollwitz
that's great news, thanks!
if it says SATA III, it's still also SATA I/II right? since ps3 doesn't support III... -
10-02-2013, 06:58 AMAlishAll SSDs are backwards compatible. I've had an Samsung 840 SSD installed in my PS3 for awhile and its very responsive in comparison to the original one that came with. I would recommend it!Quote:
Originally Posted by kollwitz
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10-02-2013, 07:05 AMashikenshin
also a tip for ps3 players: set your hdtv to game mode to fix latency issues.
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10-02-2013, 07:06 AMShintaru
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq7F7JOMDXA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_vdNPv6HKk
These are the video tutorials for the ps3 on how to install the SDD. -
10-02-2013, 07:11 AMkollwitzalright, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alish
so i found this one which seems cheap enough. would this one be ok?
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digit.../dp/B00A1ZTZOG -
10-02-2013, 07:17 AMAlishThats actually really cheap for what it is, and 3 year warranty! Doesn't look like a bad buy to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kollwitz
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10-02-2013, 07:27 AMkollwitzawesomesauce.Quote:
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10-02-2013, 07:36 AMSignyJust to let everyone know the PS3 use SATA 1, so the speed is caped by the bus to 150 mb/s max. So when you look of a SSD don't buy a really good one that it have speeds of 500mb/s. It will perform the same as a lower end counterpart. The main part of SSD vs normal hard drives is almost having zero the seek time.Quote:
Originally Posted by kollwitz
:) Thats all.
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10-02-2013, 10:15 PMMasameZaraki
Are there ways to transfer files from the old HD to the new SSD or do I need to download the game again and start from scratch? It isn't a huge deal but I am kind of curious what others are doing.
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10-02-2013, 10:52 PMEekikiThe PS3 has a system backup utility.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasameZaraki
Check it out.
As to whether or not this will make it so you don't have to download and reinstall the client, I dunno. I'd imagine so, since the client is tied to your PSN account and not the local hardware. But I could be wrong. -
10-03-2013, 12:56 AMGilraen
You're right, it's the registered PSN that controls accessibility, not the individual installs. That said, backing up serves more that just easing transitions, it's also one of two ways to back up those pesky copy-protected save files that game developers seem to think people want (the other being to use PS+ online copy system, which is just as annoying. Can't download a file until 24 hours after upload, nonsense).
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10-03-2013, 01:12 AMPugmalion1
I've been wanting to do this for a couple of months now. Good to see so many success stories. I was on the fence about it because of the PS4 coming out soon, but I plan on keeping and using the PS3 well after the next-gen launch, so a little upgrade sounds like a sound investment.
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10-03-2013, 09:17 AMShintaruI have the super slim ps3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firefly
It has helped me but I do plan on going to the ps4 version when it becomes available next year -
10-04-2013, 07:59 AMDahk
I have a 500gb SATA drive lying around. Will this increase my ps3 performance or do I need one of these SSD's?
Link to the drive: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 -
10-04-2013, 08:33 AMWiggles
Solid State Drives have no impact on in-game performance. Turn off spells or effects from other players to fix your rendering issues. I have a SSD on my PC, and all it does is effect load times THATS IT gaming wise. All performance related issues are related to the GPU, CPU, or RAM.
A simple google search of Guru3d or tomshardware will prove that. Dont waste your money unless your looking for shorter load times, and even thats questionable on a PS3, the system was not designed for SSD's, the bios would have to support it properly for you to get the full benefits.
I dont understand how ignorance like this exists with google right there in front of you...The guy after me thinks a fast internet will effect load times. I think Im going to cry............ -
10-04-2013, 08:35 AMSlatervonjager
Just FYI, you can attain fast load times, if you adjust the settings on your router/get a better modem/pay for better internet/reduce the number of connections to the internet active in your household/.
All of these options can improve your load times. And yes, they do work.
Also, the load of FATE mobs is not a PS3 issue, its an everyone issue. PC players get it too. -
10-04-2013, 08:38 AMArkista
Can you put one of those in a 500gb ps3?
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10-04-2013, 09:21 AMkollwitzthis is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiggles
this is not however. it's not questionable. it's a fact that a ssd can improve load times on your ps3. google it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiggles
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it works for FFXIV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintaru
btw yoshi p himself stated once that a sdd will help. -
10-11-2013, 06:09 AMCairdeas
Anecdotal Evidence of Benefits of a Solid State Drive being used in inside of a Ps3. Note: Your Mileage May Vary.
Issues I was having in with the 500GB HDD in my Super Slim Limited White PS3:
- After Clicking 'Play' At login screen the game takes between 10-20 seconds to load the Opening Cut Scene.
- When moving from Hawker's Alley to the Stair's next to the Lift in LL. The Lift room would fail to load in time, leaving me 'Running through emptiness' until it loaded. On turning towards the stairs, the stairs would not be loaded until right as I hit the zone line.
- Load Times between zones ranged from 6-10 seconds. The most extreme being an almost 30 second wait when attempting to load into a dungeon with a large opening cutscene.
- When participating in a Large Population Fate, Monsters fail to load, players fail to load, Macro's fail to operate properly because the delay in abilities triggering from load times prevents the next ability to trigger in time.
- Players and NPC's have a long delay in loading on screen.
- When too many players are present the game drops in FPS to between 10-15FPS.
Below I will list the benefits I have acquired from transitioning my Super Slim Limited White Ps3 from a 500GB HDD drive to a 120GB SSD.
- Loading Time of Opening Cut scene after clicking Play in Start Menu: 1.5 Seconds
- Loading Time from transitioning between zones: 1.5 Seconds (From 6-8 Seconds)
- There are no more Pop-in's When sprinting from the middle of Hawker's Alley to the Stair's next to the Lift in LL. Stair's are always loaded.
- The slowdown previously experienced when attempting to participate in a high populated FATE is gone. I can now engage and perform macros without Delays.
- Pop-in's generally are non-existent with the highest quality textures always being loaded no matter how fast you move through a Zone.
- When approaching high population zones like the area around a Retainer Bell, All characters are already loaded before approach. No Pop-In Characters.
- NPC's are always present when moving quickly into a new area of a zone.
- The delay in seeing the AOE effects on the ground and causing a failure to dodge them is gone.
- Generally the game seems to constantly maintain a 30FPS ratio without any slowdown except on absolutely extreme population spikes.
I have not tested participating in Odin Yet, but Svara was easy to move about and target monsters and players without any, ANY slow down. -
10-16-2013, 01:19 AMShintaru
Which SSD did you end up using?
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10-16-2013, 01:25 AMEclair_Xysha
Black Friday is around the corner. Thank you for the tip! I shall try this method.
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10-16-2013, 01:29 AMDhalmelTHat's because you're on PC, the PS3 version is a very different animal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiggles
The PS3 version pretty much uses the HDD similar to how Page File works in Windows to make up for the confined amount of memory, faster storage = faster performance. -
10-16-2013, 02:07 AMKyriea
An SSD makes a very noticeable difference on PS3 and would highly recommend getting one but obviously they can be expensive so it's really a case of if you are annoyed enough by things loading slower. As for people saying it wont make a difference without trying it, it does. Maybe not completely performance-wise but the less strain on loading models etc means that it can focus on other areas and makes the frame rate more consistent. If you do decide to get one you wont be disappointed with the change.
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10-17-2013, 11:25 PMCairdeas120gb Kensington that I purchased for 70USD off Amazon. I believe it was linked too directly on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintaru
It came in one day and was an easy install. The only downside was having to reprogram ALL my macros for ALL my classes on ALL my characters. Because I chose to foregoe backing up and forgot I could reimport saved files from PSN+ -
10-18-2013, 01:25 AMGilraen
Well, you could just reinstall the old hard drive, make your back-up, reinstall the SSD and import the back-up. That's what I did with my copy-protected saves, anyway... stupid copy-protection, why exactly?
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10-18-2013, 01:31 AMValarice
Does the PS3 support FSTRIM?
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10-18-2013, 01:35 AMispanoNot likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valarice