9 Animal Fat for 1 Hard Hippoglyph Leather?

man thats quite a lot

9 X 125 Tomes = 1125 philo tomes to make 1 hard Hippoglyph leather to make lv70 craft

DL seems way cheaper to me

the only good thing with these lv70 crafts better than DL you can meld materia in it & HQ it too for boost stats

DL is cheaper.

It is.

But some people like to look rich.

Cheaper and worse... if you lack gil.

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

Cheaper and worse... if you lack gil.

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Cheaper, and better unless you HQ and attach multiple forbidden melds to it.

Yeh the only way to make the lvl 70 crafted better than Darklight is to not only buy already super expensive HQ stuff (or craft it super expensively) and then forbidden meld it. Honestly it's not worth it considering DL gear is a stepping stone to AF+1 anyhow. Best suggestion, sell the materials if you have spare tombstones, plenty of folks still thinking that crafting is viable at end game to make a profit on.

HQ rate on the majority of i70 gear is 100% and it's no more expensive than crafting the NQ version. In fact, if you are farming your own Tomestone mats it's basically free.

The cost lies in Materia which nobody will deny can be expensive. Nonetheless, using your 100% slots will in most cases outdo DL anyway, and overmelding to 4-5 slots basically makes them i80 pieces.

I'll say it again; Darklight is cheaper and worse. Stop arguing with this, it makes no sense.

noobsbelike non crafting items are better

think about what they did in ffxi
crafting armor was an alternative to those with gil who couldn't not obtain the better equipment via boss.

in ffxiv however they took this approach with crafting, bosses drop good armor, crafters can make armor on par with MATERIA.


DL= for sure way to get armor.
Crafting armor= FAST way, GIL way.

the harder of the two is crafting armor so therefor its going to be better than something thats easier obtained.

the 100% for sure reason that the armor is there, is for your alternate job in the future, when cap is rasied ect, your not going to want to farm tomes for your lvl 50 when cap is 75, so you buy the crafted armor to suffice until next armor.

HQ have the same stats as the DL ( well maybe 1 point in some stats ), considering you can add 2(let's say that you don't do forbidden melding ) materias with + ( let's say you use only Lvl 3 materias ) 3/4.
it makes +3/4 points in a stats on each crafted items, the stats are around 20 on the chest items for 4 stats, so 80 points, so crafted items are 5% better, it's a LOT more than DL, i let you calculate with forbidden melding ( 5 materias ).

That fancy crafted gear seems neat... Until you realize the stat caps on them. Most pieces are mediocre at best. :\

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

HQ rate on the majority of i70 gear is 100% and it's no more expensive than crafting the NQ version. In fact, if you are farming your own Tomestone mats it's basically free.

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well, you will need gil too as no one will afford farming tomes for crafting mats

if someone need gil over tomes you can ask for the crafting mat for 30k gil for example

but since im not rich atm i will consider doing it wen i have some millions

Also for the stat caps and what you can do at best with crafted gear iLvl 70 :

http://i73.servimg.com/u/f73/14/12/79/14/sans_t10.jpg
It's huge.

If you have that kind of money... then yeah...

it's been bothering me
how do we know if certain stats materia is capped before we attach it?
i found it that buying materia for my gear is kind of a gambling
what's the sign if it'll be capped?

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Cheaper, and better unless you HQ and attach multiple forbidden melds to it.

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It's only marginally better if you meld it, and you can't get your main stat on most of the pieces as the caps are ridiculously low.

Personally I would say not worth it, especially for the extra cost.

People are also forgetting that CT will drop ilvl 80 gear which will make this crafting gear all but useless, at least we still have a couple of months to enjoys its overpriced glory.

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Originally Posted by MisakiSatomi

If you have that kind of money... then yeah...

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To get money you can 1 => farm dungeons, buy then sell the crafts items that you get with tomestones, i selled 15 and managed to buy my vanya dress.
or 2 => get your craft to lvl 50, make ilvl 55 items, make somes AK for your tomestones, melds the 12 items, take the lvl 3 / 4 materias that are good for your class, sell/trade the others to buy what you need.