Hello all, I'm 1 dungeon away from getting my Spharai (mnk relic) but maintenance is up...
I was wondering, do relics here have a hidden stats like in FFXI? (5% for 3x the normal damage)?
At first it didn't cross my mind, but then a friend of mine told me that the relic+1 has a triple damage hidden stats and that it was confirmed by parser, I tried googling it but couldn't find anything regarding this. Does anyone have any clue?
Also, I'm saving for the Melee cyclas, so should I get the cyclas or upgrade to +1 relic as soon as I get it? (I don't have any ilvl90 items yet, cyclas would be my first).
Do relic weapons have hidden stats? (triple damage)
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10-01-2013, 04:20 PMSedoSanDo relic weapons have hidden stats? (triple damage)
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10-01-2013, 04:22 PMNekoTheCat
Is he a Summoner?
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10-01-2013, 04:24 PMUrthdigger
It'd be the first I've heard of. They already just simply have better stats than all other weapons.
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10-01-2013, 04:25 PMSedoSanlol he is actually a summoner, (with relic), we were randomly discussing why would someone waste getting relic+1 instead of gear pieces, he just jumped in and said that he saw somewhere that relic+1 does triple damage (not his results)...Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoTheCat
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10-01-2013, 04:31 PMNekoTheCat
Well there you go, FFXIV-APP doesnt work correctly and is just generally a waste of space
There's a proper parser called "FFXIV LogRep" which actually calculates everything with a like 100-200damage difference between multiple people running it with is negligible at best, We pretty much ran both at the same time, Two people running both parsers, the First Parser which was -app showed my summoner with Ifrit book and AK gear + All my Dex jewelery for accuracy/crit as "418" DPS and 200k damage compared to anyoneelse, (http://oi40.tinypic.com/2eewhtz.jpg) Whereas on the other one it shows a more accurate parse where I'm only 15k ahead (including pet) of the next person and we actually got the same numbers with both parties parsers (Logrep), whereas the FFXIV-APP one showed me pulling 418dps and 482dps differences -
10-01-2013, 04:40 PMSedoSanIt was just a coincidence that he was a summoner, he didn't say that his relic+1 did the triple damage, but just said that he read it somewhere (maybe a job other than smn) i'm not sure to be honest >.>;Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoTheCat
but its good to know that FFXIV-APP parser isn't accurate, faith in monk restored :P (i do AK with my brothers and one of them is a smn, he does like 210+ DPS while I can't keep up 140 DPS) made me sad :P
Anyone owns a relic+1 wanna share? ^_^ -
10-01-2013, 04:42 PMMrEzekialAnyone who gets armor over a +1 relic is pretty stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by SedoSan
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10-01-2013, 04:43 PMThotor
There is no such thing as triple damage on relic+1. It does however provide the biggest increase in damage over anything else.
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10-01-2013, 04:44 PMNekoTheCat
Well, to be fair for Bards technically it's Ring > Pants > blah blah blah
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10-01-2013, 04:47 PMAstralis
Those classes who has better allagan weapon shouldnt invest much in relic+1 but for blms allagan sucks because ots 1hand and shield so for blm it is better to get relic+1 first
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10-01-2013, 04:54 PMLoopahYes, cause turn5 is so easy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Astralis
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10-01-2013, 04:56 PMBabydoll
I have smn relic +1 and there is no bonus afaik. And getting +1 relicis so much more beneficial then AF+1 atm...
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10-01-2013, 09:57 PMHitaruHotaruActually, it's better for BRD to get +1 Pants because the +1 weapon only adds 1DPS (~6 stats).Quote:
Originally Posted by MrEzekial
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10-02-2013, 01:25 AMThotorKeep in mind this is primary stat aka Dex. And 1 dex =~ 4 secondary stat.Quote:
Originally Posted by HitaruHotaru
So It is actually an ~10 dex upgrade.
But in reality that's not exactly how it is. WD is a multiplier of Dex. So the higher your dex, the better WD will be. 1 WD is always the best upgrade -
10-02-2013, 02:35 AMneoreturn
+2 weapon Dmg = +13 primary attrib.
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10-02-2013, 03:15 AMSedoSanI've tried it today, results seems more realistic... (btw, got my relic and mytho body! :D)Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoTheCat
does it only calculate DPS in events?
I want to see my DPS in real time fighting dummy striker, any idea how? -
10-02-2013, 03:23 AMElizabethThat's what i'm doing as a SMN, my Allagan is waaaaaaay better than my Relic+1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Astralis
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10-02-2013, 04:19 AMThotornot possible. It was designed for dungeons and raids.Quote:
Originally Posted by SedoSan
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10-02-2013, 04:47 AMRainsford
Why are people planning on getting Allagen weapons? No one has legitimately killed it yet, and it's most likely impossible with current gear levels/tuning.
And, technically, crafted gear with optimal materia > AF2/Allagan armor. Unless you have both Speed and Crit on your ilvl 90, you shouldn't prioritize it. Relic+1s, on the other hand, are the only things that are unequivocally best in slot, and low WD will bottle-neck everything else you do. -
10-02-2013, 06:31 AMThotor
HQ crafted gear 70 is inferior to iLevel 90 due to less dex on it.
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10-02-2013, 06:36 AMkataly
There is currently no way for ilvl 70 crafted gear with five overloaded materia to be better than ilvl 90 because the gap between primary stats is way too large.
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10-02-2013, 06:48 AMRyukoSame here (as my SMN). I'd MUCH rather have the crit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elizabeth
Yes, getting Allagan weapons is NOT easy. We all know that. But I'm betting on the fact that by the time I'm even close to done with my AFv2, Turn 5 will be on farm status for several linkshells. The game has been out since mid-August and it will take most people until about December to get the full set pieces. We just entered October, which gives us several more months for people to make it to Turn 5 (as each week passes, this will get easier because people will farm better gear and be able to buy more AFv2 pieces).