AK/CM/Prae... why?

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10-01-2013, 12:25 PM
Rekujen

AK/CM/Prae... why?

Love this game, I really do.. but spamming 3 dungeons and "speed runs" just to get Philo and Myth tomes is tedious and boring.

Cool I got my Dark Light chest.. now I need to do Prae 5 times for the boots, now I need to do Prae again 6 times for the leggings...

What am I gonna do today? log on and do CM/Prae 3-4 times then AK 3-4 times... then I'm bored and worn out. This is not enjoyable.

Why don't you grab every. single. dungeon. and make level 50 versions of them? I wouldn't mind doing Qarn, Sastasha, Stone Vigil, etc etc at level 50, it beats spamming 3 dungeons over n over.

What about this?

Normal LvL 50 versions gives Philo
Hard Mode LvL 50 versions gives Mythology

This way when I queue, I select all dungeons and wait... instead of "LFG CM...."

Like I said, this game is amazing and I'm really looking forward to the future.. but as of right now, the end-game before Coil is really tedious :\ we need more options!
10-01-2013, 12:32 PM
Feyniphia

Would love to see this, dungeon variety is always welcomed. :)
10-01-2013, 12:33 PM
Vantwan

I'd really like it if lower level dungeons gave philosophy tomes when you queue for them as a level 50, even if it isn't much, around 5-20 tomes maybe. It'll give some incentive for higher levels to help lowbies through earlier content. I know I would randomly queue and help others if that were the case.
10-01-2013, 12:37 PM
Axel_Ward

I think this would be a good idea. I'm tired of doing the same dungeons over and over again for Philo and Mytho.
10-01-2013, 12:40 PM
HamHam

Agree. I would love to see level 50 version of those dungeons.
10-01-2013, 12:50 PM
Wobble

Love this.
10-01-2013, 12:52 PM
Spectre

Is this a troll?

They already said hardmode versions of all dungeons are planned. At least 2 are in for the next patch.

Asking for what is already coming... I don't... wha... ok....

:edit: seriously, if you go through the dungeons, you can see where they have closed off parts of the design to slim them down for the carebear version. We go through them all the time in my FC and talk about how we can't wait to see what they open up for the HardMode.
10-01-2013, 12:53 PM
Rekujen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre

Is this a troll?

They already said hardmode versions of dungeons are planned. At least 2 are in for the next patch.

Asking for what is already coming... I don't... wha... ok....

That's not even close to what I'm suggesting... but ok.
10-01-2013, 12:58 PM
Spectre

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rekujen

That's not even close to what I'm suggesting... but ok.

ok so by :

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rekujen

Why don't you grab every. single. dungeon. and make level 50 versions of them? I wouldn't mind doing Qarn, Sastasha, Stone Vigil, etc etc at level 50, it beats spamming 3 dungeons over n over.

you don't actually wan't HardMode.. or Extreme versions of all current dungeons.

...because that's exactly what they have already mentioned is intended : Hardmode versions for Lv50 challenges. ... and if current dungeons already drops tomes of both types, what makes you think new dungeons, harder then what we have now, won't?

Do you even know what you want?
10-01-2013, 01:00 PM
Aoshi1

This is one of the better ideas to have come forth from these forums, well played OP! You have my support!

[QUOTE=Spectre;1355771]ok so by :

you don't actually wan't HardMode.. or Extreme versions of all current dungeons.

...because that's exactly what they have already mentioned is intended : Hardmode versions for Lv50 challenges. ... and if current dungeons already drops tomes of both types, what makes you think new dungeons, harder then what we have now, won't?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre

Do you even know what you want?

Take it easy there killer. I am taking a guess here, but what I think the OP is getting at is something along the lines of CM, Prae, and Ak. They aren't called Hard Mode or anything, they are just adjusted to give lvl 50 folks a challenge (using the term loosely). When you throw the term HM around, we think of the Primals, Scenario vs HM types. There is a sizable difference between the two, while the dungeons in scenario ramp up slightly per level. I am guessing he wants to make Lvl 50 SCENARIO difficulty to be applied to the dungeons. If so, that's not HM at all.
10-01-2013, 01:01 PM
texhnolyze

i played other mmorpgs which have this kind of feature
hard mode of low leveled dungeons
it really make a huge diversity on endgame
it would be a great addition
10-01-2013, 01:03 PM
ChronoCross

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rekujen

That's not even close to what I'm suggesting... but ok.

normal versions should never give end game currency, as in phil tomes.
so yes, you will get variety. just not the exact kind you want.
10-01-2013, 01:03 PM
Rekujen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre

ok so by :

you don't actually wan't HardMode.. or Extreme versions of all current dungeons.

...because that's exactly what they have already mentioned is intended : Hardmode versions for Lv50 challenges. ... and if current dungeons already drops tomes of both types, what makes you think new dungeons, harder then what we have now, won't?

Do you even know what you want?

I really don't know why you're coming into this thread with full-throttle hatred... I'm not even gonna counter-argue with you, it's pointless because this is just a suggestion... are you an angry child? please relax, there's no need for this hostility.

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Originally Posted by ChronoCross

normal versions should never give end game currency, as in phil tomes.
so yes, you will get variety. just not the exact kind you want.

I understand where you're coming from, but CM/Prae/AK aren't exactly "hard modes" they are level 50 "normal" dungeons. All I'm asking for is more choices, doing level 50 versions of the entire dungeon list would make things less tedious.
10-01-2013, 01:17 PM
Psychosamm

I really like this idea!! Doing the same 2 dungeons is boring as hell. I was thinking they needed to make one of the other dungeons drop a similar amount of myth tomes as AK, but i think i like this idea even more! Being able to do 50 versions of all the old dungeons would be perfect! So much more variety! They could even make more gear drops too! Love this idea, +1 Like!
AK is great and all, but doing it 50 times just for myth tomes is a huge pain in the butt, and really boring.
10-01-2013, 01:25 PM
Brises

What they should really do is tweak the reward mechanics to where everything that gave xp would instead give tomes (or something useful) proportionate to what the xp would have been worth. Or at least a gil bonus to comp for the xp. So you can still do all leves and fates and get something for it. Lower level ones wouldn't get you very much, but as it is now, all pre-50 content is totally useless after 50.
10-01-2013, 01:29 PM
AnkoYaoi

I love this idea! Spamming the same runs can get boring.
10-01-2013, 01:29 PM
BlueMage

People would find the most efficient dungeons to spam and only do those anyway, and the queue for anything else would be ridiculous. Also, if there was Lv50 of all dungeons, there's the possibility it might spread out the community and the DF queue too widely, as people can only queue for up to 5 dungeons. And then there's the issue of when inevitably higher token tiers are added. Then add "extra hard" mode for that tier?
10-01-2013, 01:32 PM
BlueMage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brises

What they should really do is tweak the reward mechanics to where everything that gave xp would instead give tomes (or something useful) proportionate to what the xp would have been worth. Or at least a gil bonus to comp for the xp. So you can still do all leves and fates and get something for it. Lower level ones wouldn't get you very much, but as it is now, all pre-50 content is totally useless after 50.

This would be really interesting. Maybe every 500k EXP gained at Lv50 gives X amount of tombstones.
10-01-2013, 01:33 PM
Animation

What if when you hit 50 all dungeons give Myths.. -.- of course not all will give 40 but it'll split up other dungeons and even then a lot of people may do the lower ones and help out newer players with them.
10-01-2013, 01:58 PM
Jasiwel

I'm totally all for this. Reliving the environments and gameplay would be outright awesome, not to mention just add diversity to a repetitive endgame so far.
10-01-2013, 04:05 PM
Blargs_Away

Guys!! :D... Game just came out... Give it time (\<_<\)
10-01-2013, 04:30 PM
ZohnoReecho

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aoshi1

Take it easy there killer. I am taking a guess here, but what I think the OP is getting at is something along the lines of CM, Prae, and Ak. They aren't called Hard Mode or anything, they are just adjusted to give lvl 50 folks a challenge (using the term loosely). When you throw the term HM around, we think of the Primals, Scenario vs HM types. There is a sizable difference between the two, while the dungeons in scenario ramp up slightly per level. I am guessing he wants to make Lvl 50 SCENARIO difficulty to be applied to the dungeons. If so, that's not HM at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://gamerescape.com/2013/09/24/game-watch-interviews-naoki-yoshida-part-2/

Yoshida: We’re finally going to release something aside from the end battle content, but the housing and PvP. I believe with this you’ll be able to grasp the full potential of this game. We’ll also expand on the battle content, we are planning to have one brand new dungeon, and also include two hard mode for existing dungeons. This isn’t simply where we are going to swap mobs inside, we’re going to change the dungeons structure, and gimmicks will also change. Difficulty level will also increase. So in total, you will be having three new dungeons.

Yes, killer.
It sounds like hard mode to me.