"First time here"

This is no excuse to not have any clue what a boss does, run around face pulling packs, and standing in every single red circle on the ground, while showing up in white gear.

Google exists use it.


*this really only applies to the level 50 dungeons/raids

Edit : it is not surprising this community lacks reading comprehension. I never said to go watch videos, even though that is not hard, and no it does not ruin anything. It takes litteraly 30 seconds to type in the dungeon or boss name into google and read two sentences describing the mexhanics of the fight. Boss abilities are very straight forward in this game, hiw hard is it to not stand in front of them and not stand in the obvious red circles on the ground. There is a very clear and easy path to gearing up in this game, stop using df to get into groups you are not ready for expecting to be carried. I could care less what any of you did pre 50 as I was never talking about that

You should have no problem with a person wanting to learn, for example, AK from the run itself.

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Originally Posted by Evilized6666

This is no excuse to not have any clue what a boss does, run around face pulling packs, and standing in every single red circle on the ground, while showing up in white gear.

Google exists use it.


*this really only applies to the level 50 dungeons/raids

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No, never did it in WoW not going to do it here. I'll ask when i enter or before a boss if anyone has any advice but i'm not going to look around for a hand holding guide.

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Originally Posted by Evilized6666

This is no excuse to not have any clue what a boss does

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there is no excuse for you not to be able to spend a minute explaining a boss fight in a game with difficulty that is defined as not sitting in visual cues and interrupting casts

i could understand if you were uncomfortable leading a raid in world of warcraft or something because of the level of complexity in those encounters, but you're literally telling people not to stand in shit when you play this game

this game is so easy that you could train chimps to run ak for myth

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Originally Posted by Delorean

there is no excuse for you not to be able to spend a minute explaining a boss fight

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So you people don't want "hand holding guides", but me having to explain the same fight for the 25th time in a row is acceptable? Sorry it's not my job to teach these things over and over.

Also not sure why you people want to keep comparing this to wow. Early wow dungeons/raids were extremely easy and simple. Even when I left at the start of panda land dungeons and raids were face roll easy minus their hard mode counter parts.

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Originally Posted by Evilized6666

So you people don't want "hand holding guides", but me having to explain the same fight for the 25th time in a row is acceptable? Sorry it's not my job to teach these things over and over.

Also not sure why you people want to keep comparing this to wow. Early wow dungeons/raids were extremely easy and simple. Even when I left at the start of panda land dungeons and raids were face roll easy minus their hard mode counter parts.

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It's fine that you don't want to explain that's your right just don't complain when i decide to wing it.

It'll be a cold day in hell before I study a guide or videos before being allowed to play. What did people like you do before Google and YouTube? I'd rather play the game.

Now that being said, I also don't expect you to hold my hand through it either. Just because you have run it twenty-five times and it's old news to you doesn't mean that I'm expected to know it as well as you on my first run. Get over yourself.

Now the whole white gear and standing in the red I agree with.

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Originally Posted by Ispen

It's fine that you don't want to explain that's your right just don't complain when i decide to wing it.

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There's a huge difference between winging it when you have level appropriate gear and half a brain and winging it while standing in everything while wearing white gear, that's what the op is trying to say. The amount of dungeons you have to run to finish your story should be plenty enough to figure out not to stand in everything bad and to actually have a clue about gear. Literally half or more of all boss mechanics are "do not stand in the bad" if you can get that down pat then it honestly shouldn't even require videos, guides or explanations.

I'm of two opinions of this.

1) Players should have the basic decency to upgrade their gear to at least L49 on the right side before they start doing dungeons (iLvl55 preferred, as it's not amazingly expensive).

2) Players should have patience and understand that someone may be running the zone for the first time, provided that they've done #1.