Once bosses become immune to stuns, there are only 2 viable interrupters, paladin and bard. Monk silence is way too situational and kills their dps and scholar silence isn't viable due to terrible pet controls, and there are fights that aren't possible without interrupts.
People are pigeonholed into bringing bard and paladin even if they could do these encounters without these classes. Also, paladin runs a high risk of missing interrupts due to having to generate high threat quickly on tank swaps in turn 2, meaning that holding gcd for silence is not always an option.
It would be really great if stuns were changed to still interrupt bosses without actually stunning them. As it is right now, if a group happens to use 2 warriors, or a pal+war without a bard, etc, they literally can't progress through turn 2. These kind of class composition checks are terrible.
Please make more classes viable interrupters in coil+
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09-23-2013, 01:03 PMFactionPlease make more classes viable interrupters in coil+
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09-23-2013, 01:21 PMPellegri
Honestly what they should just do is lower the cd on the current interrupts, it's a given at this point that people will have a bard in their group and literally all it would take is reducing that interrupt by 7-10secs and hey you no longer are required to have a 2nd class that can interrupt on turn 2(and hey it doesn't effect pvp balance because the skill will be different for pvp). Yes they should give more classes interrupts(and again just balance it differently for the pvp skillset), but something that could be done in nothing more than a hotfix should be just to lower the cd so a group isn't forced into bringing something they may not want more than one of or a class that gimps themselves just by focusing on interrupts.
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09-23-2013, 02:32 PMCrescent_Dusk
Yeah, if there's one class that's mandatory, it's bard. It's just dumb how strong manasong is. You then make them a mobile burst class with a silence and instant aoe, it kind of dwarfs the competition.
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09-23-2013, 08:42 PMmakke007
Warrior can interupt too ...
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09-23-2013, 10:19 PMKintt
Say hello to my little friend.
http://xivdb.com/?item/4586/Potent-Silencing-Potion -
09-23-2013, 11:02 PMNeoAmonWhat is the cool down on it? Have you actually used it on ADS? He is most definitely not lvl 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kintt
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09-23-2013, 11:16 PMWulfgang
I'm a BRD main and I largely agree. I'd like the recast to be lowered to 7-10s on Blunt Arrow, then you only need one for Turn 2; or let stun interrupt it. Frankly, I was a pre-nerf RNG in XI and I feel like BRDs are headed towards a nerf of their own. Again, I'm a main BRD and I love it, but it is just a very strong class right now compared to MNK/DRG. BLM/SMN have their own uses.
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09-23-2013, 11:27 PMOnolock
I agree they really want you to have a specific group comp in these raids. There isn't enough diversity or utility for other classes. Many groups bring 2 bards because their buffs up full time just offer so much more than any other class can. A DRG is good to even buff their dmg further. Since warriors are almost worthless as a PLD can do much more and have more utility. For complete group optimization, you have SCH, WHM, BRD, PLD which are probably the absolute needed jobs in any raid group.
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09-23-2013, 11:55 PMSinthYa it dwarfs the competition until you look at the damage output of a skilled monk or drg, then you realize bard is primarily a support job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk
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09-24-2013, 12:04 AMFactionDRG or MNK might theoretically have the highest dps but they can't put into practice very often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinth