GLA and PLD not allowed to loot "Need" for GLA/PLD items in dungeons!!!

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09-11-2013, 03:14 PM
KingXRay

GLA and PLD not allowed to loot "Need" for GLA/PLD items in dungeons!!!

I seriously had run the dungeons for items but always end up with no allowed to loot "Need" and the items always get looted by other members...
happening when I'm low lv...now I can tell it is a bug...
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I don't feel like playing dungeons anymore because of this UNFAIR looting systems!
09-11-2013, 04:14 PM
Nekodar

At least the Aetherial Raptorskin Targe is definitely not a tank shield.
Yes, PLD can wear it, but you have better options available at that level that is suitable for you as a tank.

The same applies to Blackened Scale Mail and other items in your list.

You can't Need on those items as PLD because even if you can wear them, they're inferior as tank equipment and better suitable to for example Lancer/Dragoon, or CNJ/WHM/THM/BLM...
09-11-2013, 04:31 PM
Colyo

Well no duh, you're trying to need on DPS armor and caster shields.

Jesus H. Christ, just look at the defense drop on the scale mail. This isn't rocket science.
09-11-2013, 04:42 PM
ErnestoGiovanni

This was announced before, they were restricting NEED/GREED based on the ROLE the gear is designed for, not the classes. They found GLD PLD WAR MRD were NEED rolling on DPS gear that was far inferior to the gear required to perform their actual role in the groups. The DPS had to compete with each other and the TANK for the gear they used for their role and were missing drops. I know this from experience in the betas when you could NEED any gear that had your class name on it, I was far out leveling dungeons before I was getting drops from them because I was competing for 3/4 people on the items.
09-11-2013, 10:30 PM
KingXRay

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Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni

This was announced before, they were restricting NEED/GREED based on the ROLE the gear is designed for, not the classes. They found GLD PLD WAR MRD were NEED rolling on DPS gear that was far inferior to the gear required to perform their actual role in the groups. The DPS had to compete with each other and the TANK for the gear they used for their role and were missing drops. I know this from experience in the betas when you could NEED any gear that had your class name on it, I was far out leveling dungeons before I was getting drops from them because I was competing for 3/4 people on the items.

but you should know that getting prefect TANK gear need to be very very lucky...only 5-10% chance of getting it...DPS gear are just everywhere...so it is very unfair drop...if still restrict GLA or PLD to loot their items, seriously no one will love to grind dungeons for items anymore...
09-11-2013, 10:51 PM
seekerofpower

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Originally Posted by KingXRay

but you should know that getting prefect TANK gear need to be very very lucky...only 5-10% chance of getting it...DPS gear are just everywhere...so it is very unfair drop...if still restrict GLA or PLD to loot their items, seriously no one will love to grind dungeons for items anymore...

Incorrect, both the casting gear and tank gear drop way more often than the melee DPS gear. This coming from someone whose main jobs are PLD, SCH and SMN. I have had a much easier time getting gear of those jobs in dungeons than my FC mates that run DRGs and MNKs.

Also, why would you roll need on inferior gear? Need should be used for gear you need, if what you have is better, you should use greed.

You are upset that you can't need on gear you wouldn't even wear.
09-11-2013, 11:45 PM
Lafier

Welcome to the world lancer/dragoons have been posting about for eons. Search the accepted bugs section for lnc/drg can't need on gear. It's there. I didn't know that it was also going on with other classes for the same gear set. Though the lnc/drg gear was scale gear that didn't have any tank stats (only str, vit, and another secondary dps stat such as crit/acc) so I can understand it for them. Those pictures have been scaled down so it's kind of hard (but not impossible) to see what's on them. I don't see any that has straight tank stats (either parry or dex that accounts for some parry, or other such stats) on those pieces. As such, I can kind of understand not being able to need on them. However, I can also understand the frustration of having your class on a piece of gear that specifies X, Y, and Z class on it (instead of all war or all magic) and not being able to need on it. After thinking about it I'm kind of on the fence on this topic.
09-11-2013, 11:53 PM
C-croft

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Originally Posted by seekerofpower

Incorrect, both the casting gear and tank gear drop way more often than the melee DPS gear. This coming from someone whose main jobs are PLD, SCH and SMN. I have had a much easier time getting gear of those jobs in dungeons than my FC mates that run DRGs and MNKs.

Also, why would you roll need on inferior gear? Need should be used for gear you need, if what you have is better, you should use greed.

You are upset that you can't need on gear you wouldn't even wear.

I have had plenty of runs where nothing but DPS gear drops. I have also had runs where nothing but tank stuff drops. RNG is RNG. The gear might still be an upgrade for them even if it is better suited for DPS and vice versa. It's easy to out level your gear before reaching the next tier.

TLDR: Roll for role, RNG=RNG.