Natron and Pearl Ginger

Does anyone know how or where to get these items again? I have a 27 Culinary and 13 Alchemy so theoretically I should have the ability to craft these unless SE moved them or I am just missing them. I need the pair of these for some recipes and would like to do my crafting on them today once I can figure out how to get them. I see Pearl Chocolate but not Ginger under my list. ideas help please.

Nvm apparently Pearl Ginger is Botanist, and Natron is 25 Alchemist was moved from 10 in 1.0