Rewards aside, dungeons aren't very rewarding

Silly title aside, here's what I mean...

* Dungeons are slower for experience than fate'ing or questing, especially after the first.
* They're more punitive to "worse" groups. I died four times in a Stone Vigil because the healer "forgot to heal", in his words.
* After a certain number of deaths to the same thing, all I feel is gil slipping away to repairs.

In my opinion dungeons should

* Provide more experience points
* Give considerably more gil to each participant and/or possibly not damage gear upon death.

A way to service both tanks and healers, who get dungeons fast, and dps who take a while, is for successfully completing a dungeon to give a buff that gives you 25 or 50% more exp for an hour, and make this buff not work in dungeons. Tanks and healers would accrue fast exp from doing the dungeons, which would make doing dungeons more appealing to tanks and healers, and dps would accrue faster exp outside, because of the buff they'd gained.

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Here, Pubsam2 says it better

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Originally Posted by Pubsam2

Considering how much more time, social interaction and skill goes into dungeons vs. FATES, the [inferior experience rate] of doing dungeons is kind of incredible. Why should the dumbest, easiest, least fun aspect of this game be the best way to level and earn gil?

I wish they'd bring FATES down to the levels of quests and guildleves and make dungeons appropriately rewarding.

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Originally Posted by Steeled

Silly title aside, here's what I mean...

* Dungeons are slower for experience than fate'ing or questing, especially after the first.
* They're more punitive to "worse" groups. I died four times in a Stone Vigil because the healer "forgot to heal", in his words.
* After a certain number of deaths to the same thing, all I feel is gil slipping away to repairs.

In my opinion dungeons should

* Provide more experience points
* Give considerably more gil to each participant and/or possibly not damage gear upon death.

A way to service both tanks and healers, who get dungeons fast, and dps who take a while, is for successfully completing a dungeon to give a buff that gives you 25 or 50% more exp for an hour, and make this buff not work in dungeons. Tanks and healers would accrue fast exp from doing the dungeons, which would make doing dungeons more appealing to tanks and healers, and dps would accrue faster exp outside, because of the buff they'd gained.

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Seems like you got partied with some baddies. As a healer this one inspects gear before beginning any 50 dungeons. If it sees a DPS with a level 31 weapon or a tank wearing level 39 rings, /leave.

An increse in gil drop and/or gil reward for finishing a dungeon would be much appreciated yes.

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

Seems like you got partied with some baddies. As a healer this one inspects gear before beginning any 50 dungeons. If it sees a DPS with a level 31 weapon or a tank wearing level 39 rings, /leave.

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Actually, most of the people I've partied with have been good. I don't mind people learning, as long as they can learn.

I loathe leaving in the middle of a dungeon (I never would leave mid-pull, or anything) but I can't stay and slam my head into a wall when I know *all* it's doing for me is costing me gil.

Faster exp? Gods how fast do we need to level?

They've already made the comment that gear damage will never be removed because it's the only penalty for death. Apparently, that's not enough motivation. Heck, If gear breaks upon death I pretty sure that people would be a lot more careful and this would add depth to the game.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Faster exp? Gods how fast do we need to level?

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I didn't ask for dungeon's to be the fastest XP, simply that it be faster than what it is. IMO, Fates, etc are way too fast. I'm a week into this game and already level 50, but that's on SE for .... silly design.

I agree with an exp increased, might help encourage more players to do dungeon runs instead of FATES too.

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Originally Posted by DarkTrinity06

I agree with an exp increased, might help encourage more players to do dungeon runs instead of FATES too.

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This is more an issue of the many problems with FATEs. They should have their XP reduced, and fixed so that they reward playstyles other than "tag as many monsters as possible."

Considering how much more time, social interaction and skill goes into dungeons vs. FATES, the XP loss of doing dungeons is kind of incredible. Why should the dumbest, easiest, least fun aspect of this game be the best way to level and earn gil?

I wish they'd bring FATES down to the levels of quests and guildleves and make dungeons appropriately rewarding.