Hard mode Praetorium where?

This is the true first 8 man raid.

It has all the bosses we want to fight, and enough mechanics to tide us over. All it needs are rewards.

The story version is great for teaching the basics, but why isnt there a hard mode version, with loot, and tokens? To me this seemed like the most obvious first raid.

When me and my friends finished it, all we thought was, Ultima weapon and the Top commanders of the Garlond Empire need to be more important then that, they need to be something we fight over and over again until the next enemy is released in the expansion.

Why isnt this a dungeon people can farm for endgame?

It can be farmed. 100 Allagan Tomestones of Philosophy per completion. While it is indeed a fun dungeon I'd honestly rather farm Castrum Meridianum because it's not as long plus it's easily pug-able

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

It can be farmed. 100 Allagan Tomestones of Philosophy per completion. While it is indeed a fun dungeon I'd honestly rather farm Castrum Meridianum because it's not as long plus it's easily pug-able

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Its waay to long for just 100 tokens. Speed AK gives 80 and that takes 15minutes and drops gear.

MY POINT IS, youre not going to speed run Bahamut. This is a real dungeon, its long, takes about 2 hours and it has a lot of bosses with a lot of mechanics to work with. Raids arent supposed to be easy. Gear is supposed to be earned.

The goal shouldnt be to have it EASILY pugable, but PUGABLE period. Which it is, since EVERYONE has to do it.

I am not saying remove the other dungeons, i am saying add this one to the queue, and let players decide if they want to spend time farming it.

Once they patch that exploit, how long will AK take to finish? There you go.

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Originally Posted by Arale

Once they patch that exploit, how long will AK take to finish? There you go.

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"exploit"

Must be your first MMO. :p