So... PvP in the beta?

Will it happen? :D Please SE. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

SE said they may not even have PVP at release so lol don't think so.

Doubt it, and they should not have it in beta, PVP is a different beast, that SE has no idea nor any experience with, they should take their time on that one, and examine how PVP would work in a game where everybody can be every class and has access to a multitude of abilities, on this one i am with SE.

PvP in MMORPGs have never been done right. There are always at least one or two classes that get left out of the circle that might as well just forget participating. This is why Yoshida stated that Classes/Jobs will get a separate set of skills for PvP purposes only, that way a White Mage can actually stand a chance against a Monk. If these abilities were to exist outside of PvP, then they may become imbalanced towards other content the game has to offer.

This is why PvP must be done right, and not half-assed like in other mmorpgs.