FFXI Collaboration

So I saw the new discount on ffxi monthly sub, and i think this is a step in the right direction, and I believe it should be a permanent thing! Just give ppl who have an active sub in FFxiv a discount on FFxi . I long thought SE should do with ffxi what wow does with classic, but giving subscribers a discount is also something...
It would breathe some new life into ffxi, while it would also keep more active ff14 subs.
I see now real downsides tbh.

A one-time discount of 50% for a single month of FFXI for people who are already giving SE money for a monthly sub to FFXIV really isn't that tempting to me.

Honestly these two games are massively different with massively different audiences. If we get too much of a mixture FFXI is going to suffer for it, not FFXIV. Last thing we need is XI getting simplified, casualized and kawaiified to appease the very vocal section of the XIV audience that had a massive hand in helping push XIV into it's current state.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

Honestly these two games are massively different with massively different audiences. If we get too much of a mixture FFXI is going to suffer for it, not FFXIV. Last thing we need is XI getting simplified, casualized and kawaiified to appease the very vocal section of the XIV audience that had a massive hand in helping push XIV into it's current state.

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They're not going to change FFXI just because it gets new players from FFXIV. The biggest change that has been added lately is being able to change your character race. FFXI has even more server/code limitations than FFXIV does.

I disagree, I doubt they would fundamentally change ffxi , But as it stands right now, the game is just sitting there... kinda hidden, its a real shame, bc there is so much content there, and Se is just keeping it on life support at best

I will be perfectly honest, nothing I ever heard about XI other than certain aspects of story has ever made me tempted to try it, every time, without fail, that someone tries to talk to me about it, it goes: "Yeah I love that game, it has <proceeds to explain the most miserable gameplay experience my eyes and ears had the displeasure of learning about>.", all of it reeks of archaic design that has been abandoned for good reason.

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Originally Posted by Edweirdo

I disagree, I doubt they would fundamentally change ffxi , But as it stands right now, the game is just sitting there... kinda hidden, its a real shame, bc there is so much content there, and Se is just keeping it on life support at best

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Idk, they are getting a lot of new subs, so much so they closed down their biggest server to new characters and they are revamping and revitalizing old content with limbus and beseiged being the first to get the treatment and more incoming. They also just added Sortie, which is a new and large piece of battle content. So, it's hardly "just sitting there" on life support.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

Idk, they are getting a lot of new subs, so much so they closed down their biggest server to new characters and they are revamping and revitalizing old content with limbus and besieged being the first to get the treatment and more incoming. They also just added Sortie, which is a new and large piece of battle content. So, it's hardly "just sitting there" on life support.

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Well I'm glad that ffxi is still going, I think the raids have definitely helped with getting more ppl interested , I know a couple of my fc members who didn't even know about ffxi existence before the raids, and now they playing xi too. So those new subs u mentioned ,are probably 14 players anyway. You're argument that ffxi should just stay as it is bc an influx of new players would somehow bring changes ? I don't get it... Sounds like you're a purist on copium. I say let it thrive,have it fill in a couple more servers ,bc mmos need ppl !

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Originally Posted by Edweirdo

Well I'm glad that ffxi is still going, I think the raids have definitely helped with getting more ppl interested , I know a couple of my fc members who didn't even know about ffxi existence before the raids, and now they playing xi too. So those new subs u mentioned ,are probably 14 players anyway. You're argument that ffxi should just stay as it is bc an influx of new players would somehow bring changes ? I don't get it... Sounds like you're a purist on copium. I say let it thrive,have it fill in a couple more servers ,bc mmos need ppl !

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I didn't say it shouldn't change. It is changing and evolving in a great way atm. What I said was it shouldn't change in the direction FFXIV did which it most certainly would if you would combine the 2 audiences since SE is so creatively bankrupt these days that they just default to angsty, lazy or silly anime tropes which a certain sector of the audience loudly goes bananas for. With everything from duties to jobs getting simplified, content being made redundant and the game going from serious or grounded themes to, oh look at the cute bunnies! Levity is a good thing, but in moderation. This game shovels sugar down our throats like most other JP media and it's just boring and tiring at this point. I like the dark or serious themes, broke occasionally by something funny and silly, rather than having the game mostly cutesy comic relief broke occasionally by something serious. If my character ever can take a selfie, while making a peace sign in San d'Oria, like we can in Uldah, I would just toss everything I own from SE into the bin where they are trying to put it anyway.

Change is good. But they need to find balance because drowning in middle school aesthetics and bargin bin manga tropes is not it.