"We're people too." To the producer and Dev team of this MMORPG

Yes you are people I wish that you are all healthy and well off much love and success to you and your team.

However being people does not put you above criticism you are in a business relationship with your many paying customers and you have provided not only poorer quality product but you have provided it at slower intervals.

If you refuse to listen to us then our relationship cannot be a hand in hand partnership as it should be, it becomes adversarial when you do not listen to the people who pay you interest dies off that is just reality. While me being just one small person may be insignificant to you, the collective is filing out slowly you are bleeding money and looking for ways to get more the cash shop will not save you it's quick but it also breads bad will especially in a p2p game like this...

Only thing that will save the MMO is better product.

few ideas you can take them or leave them

1. MSQ needs Less padding more voiced CS convey your ideas and let us play the game do not beat around the bush.

2. Side content like the Arcadion, the crystal tower, alexander should be voiced these stories had amazing characters but that is hiden in walls of text making them voiceless mannequin npcs it feels low effort at least phone in some lines it will make more people hyped to see what happens next..

3. improve old systems explorer mode in old raids and other content this should be very easy, more thought out rewards for gameplay and less stuff in the cash shop, being able to glam in house larger friends list just few small ideas please you have a banger of a game you've done good continue doing good.

"If you refuse to listen to us..." You lose all credibility at this point.

that is a really big one for me, with MSQ "beating around the bush". i am sick of being told a story through the lens of me not being able to catch on to anything. it is really exhausting. i assume they probably do this for people who are just not literate or something, but at that point can those people just go listen to a lore video or patch breakdown? enrich the story and don't treat me like i'm reading my first book.

That one line never sits right to me.

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"We are people too."

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Thanks, I know that. What's the guilt trip comment for, btw? I know that's probably meant for JP feedbacks because (1)they barely look at NA/EU lol, and; (2)JP community's feedbacks are very ruthless, moreso than EU/NA counterparts. But genuinely asking, how much more patient do they expect players to be at this point? If I pay somebody to fix my kitchen plumbing but they barely fix anything or make it worse, of course I'd be disappointed/upset/pissed. It's not that deep with SE too.

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Originally Posted by Kahnha

Yes you are people I wish that you are all healthy and well off much love and success to you and your team.

However being people does not put you above criticism you are in a business relationship with your many paying customers and you have provided not only poorer quality product but you have provided it at slower intervals.

If you refuse to listen to us then our relationship cannot be a hand in hand partnership as it should be, it becomes adversarial when you do not listen to the people who pay you interest dies off that is just reality. While me being just one small person may be insignificant to you, the collective is filing out slowly you are bleeding money and looking for ways to get more the cash shop will not save you it's quick but it also breads bad will especially in a p2p game like this...

Only thing that will save the MMO is better product.

few ideas you can take them or leave them

1. MSQ needs Less padding more voiced CS convey your ideas and let us play the game do not beat around the bush.

2. Side content like the Arcadion, the crystal tower, alexander should be voiced these stories had amazing characters but that is hiden in walls of text making them voiceless mannequin npcs it feels low effort at least phone in some lines it will make more people hyped to see what happens next..

3. improve old systems explorer mode in old raids and other content this should be very easy, more thought out rewards for gameplay and less stuff in the cash shop, being able to glam in house larger friends list just few small ideas please you have a banger of a game you've done good continue doing good.

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You are only viewing this matter in terms of the content they're producing and the associated gameplay element.

I'd argue that, in the wider scheme of things, the first thing that needs to be addressed is why, apparently, only a small fraction of the income the game generates is actually fed back into the game. As has been discussed many times (over many threads) - it seems that a probably substantial chunk of the income/profit(?) the game generates is syphoned off to fuel projects (such as smartphone games) which ultimately flop.

Address that element of what is going on behind the scenes and the improvements you refer to are more achievable.

Sheer entitlement on display here

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

That one line never sits right to me.

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Its funny because though I understand what he means (and in some cases its warranted), I couldn't help but be like "back at ya my man". We are people too, not just your free money eating anything that comes out of your hands. Somewhere down the line SE (at this point it looks like there is a lot of finger pointing going on so i'll just say SE as a whole) forgot that this is a nothing more than a transactional relationship, because a percentage of the playerbase also forgot and was willingly paying for anything they got. Now that isn't happening, or happening at a significantly lesser rate.

No one here should be rooting for FFXIV's downfall but I think they need to double down, just be transparent, and commit. Either the game is made for every kind of MMO type of player and they will make significant content to keep those people attracted, or they hone in on making the game for specific buyer persona's, communicate it, and make sufficient enough content to keep those people only satisfied.

Remember Yoshi P. right before Endwalker said "SE will spare no expense" and now all he can talk about is "cost" holding them back. And I hate to admit it because I love BLU, but I saw a video by Xenos and I think he's right. SE hasn't committed to limited jobs and BLU has been out since Stormblood, yet Yoshi P just said BST is taking up a ton of resources. Well wth, if you are barley gonna support the system going forward these resources could have been used for other things. Make OC better or something. Do something with the open world.

Pretty sure this is a troll post given how it's worded.

Sounds like they should hire more people, tbh :v)

Yoshi, yes devs are people, but so are your players,
and unlike your devs, many of your players spent years building deep 'personal' connections to the 'community' of this game,
a connection which goes far beyond the professional distance which should be available to staff.

So when you then say "please play other games"
and in so doing you inspire and green light, a pernicious, and ongoing epidemic of, a large part of the community to take it upon themselves to tell another part of that community, now emboldened by the righteousness of the word of their saviour, to tell that community to a) shut up, and b) leave ...

when you then 'choose' to do nothing.

when you choose to do anything less that issue a dedicated statement to the effect of...

When you choose to do anything less that come onto these official FFXIV forums to the effect of..

...to roll back that statement. To in no uncertain terms 'admonish' those who have engaged in such.

When you starve casuals, then taunt them with Chaotic, and again...
fail to make a statement that recognises why that part of the player base were unimpressed or even upset, emboldening the "shutup and leave" sociopaths, the "you shouldn't even join, progliars" sociopaths

When you then sit at the helm of an enterprise, that then follows up with OC...
and to this very day, have still not said what your original intentions were for FT. (Should it have been for everyone, free to enter, a melting pot of players, able to bid for places in their own terms and get an eaqual chance, community pulling each along? Or was it only for discords and organised groups of PF raiders, free of progliars and other such scum...

Then you fail utterly to have remembered we are humans.
And have instead treated us as mere cogs among the resources at the disposal of the revenue machine that is FFXIV. Here only to be finessed when necessary, but first and foremost not rocking the good ship 'quarterly review'.

I accept the staff (ignore 'dev') are humans.
But frankly we did not start this and have been left to fend for ourselves.
It has gone too far absolutely and the community must improve. Includes me.

But frankly, no. It is incumbent upon SE to now lead and make the first step by starting to set a decent example first and foremost in communication that involves itself in the community.
Making mistakes is fine.
But mistakes have costs, and the 'dev' team have been utterly unwilling to do their part in meeting those costs to even the most minimal of degrees... that being communication to acknowledge those mistakes.

So. It's never to late to form an opinion, and provide leadeship, by admonishing the "i think you should leave" part of the playerbase.
Or perhaps you actually think that is ok.
Either you do? Or you do not?