STOP GATEKEEPING PF IN 2025 BE LIKE EU and jp

Party Finder in this game is a fucking disaster sometimes. I don’t care if it’s a clear party or a reclear party — stop locking them behind Duty Complete. It makes zero sense. A clear party should let people who still need the achievement in. A reclear party should be for anyone who is clear-ready or who has already cleared. Slapping Duty Complete on top of either one is nothing but pointless gatekeeping, ego stroking, and absolute garbage design by the community.

And let’s be brutally honest: if you’ve got 40+ clears and you’re still throwing Duty Complete on your PF, you’re not protecting anything — you’re just flexing like a middle school bully. The achievement doesn’t magically make your run smooth. Half the time, these “Duty Complete only” parties are still a complete circus of parse animals faceplanting mechanics they’ve done a thousand times, wiping at 2%, screaming for heals. Meanwhile, one actual clear-ready player who actually cares about killing the boss would probably carry harder than another orange-log clown obsessed with padding numbers.

And the real punchline? The C41 “need clear” people who STILL lock behind Duty Complete. Like bro… YOU need the clear. YOU literally haven’t done it yet. But you’re blocking everyone else who’s also capable? That’s not logic — that’s begging for a carry while pretending you’re above it. PF becomes a graveyard because of clowns like this.

If you think NA PF is bad, look at EU and JP PF. They don’t gatekeep with Duty Complete nearly as much, and people actually take mechanics seriously. If you perform poorly there, you WILL get flamed — you can’t hide behind “Duty Complete” as a shield. Meanwhile, NA PF is a trash heap of ego-driven carry-seekers and orange-log obsessed clowns who think an achievement icon equals skill.

Clear party, reclear party, who gives a damn — stop with the “Duty Complete only

Not sure what EU PF you are talking about. Most parties looking for reclears here are using duty complete requirements too.

Because for every player that hasnt cleared yet but knows the fight good enough to clear, you get half a dozen that lie hard about their prog points.

Requiring at least one clear isn't perfect, but at least it means everyone who joined at the very least was not so much dead weight that they couldnt be dragged to a clear.

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Originally Posted by os12ispeak

A clear party should let people who still need the achievement in. A reclear party should be for anyone who is clear-ready or who has already cleared.

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I'd agree that clear parties should NOT require the achievement, because the point is... getting that.

But on the other hand, I disagree about Reclear parties. They should be for people who already have the achievement, or else we'd get even more "prog liars" than we have today. I'm not currently raiding high end, but as a PF user, I remember so many reclear failures because people joined not even knowing how they did get the kill. I'd imagine it would be even worse if groups stopped to require the achievement.

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Originally Posted by os12ispeak

A reclear party should be for anyone who is clear-ready or who has already cleared.

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A RECLEAR party is for people who have ALREADY cleared, but if you need help, you can ask for a C41/book run, people will be more willing to help if you ask, you know?

I've been in too many C41 parties that ended up C47 time-wasters to mind those sometimes being locked to Duty Complete. Duty Complete makes perfect sense and is a tool given to us to use by the game for the express purpose of gatekeeping. We should use it to gatekeep. Gatekeeping is not a Bad Evil No-No. It doesn't necessarily guarantee a smooth party but it does guarantee that everyone in it has cleared.

People who make PF parties are entitled to put whatever rules they see fit. If that displeases you, make your own and see where that carries you.

Clear requirements are there because people lie about their prog, locked clear for 1 are there because they want to limit the shenanigans.

Farm parties are there for speed and consistency, not community work. Yea there are protecting something, their private play time. So stop making this about gatekeeping.

Nothing pisses me off more then dead weights that lies about their prog points, that's an auto blacklist.
Unannounced clear for one? I leave. This is called PF etiquette, respect the time of other players.

If you want to partake into cleared/farm party, get your clear legit like all of us: prog parties or find yourself friends that are willing to give time to carry you to clear.

And I'm gonna say, since the world travel feature was added, PF etiquette has seriously taken a hit on Aether.

sorry bubby if i have 400+ clears and i gatekeep behind duty complete its cringe if ur a c41 and ur doing duty complete you also got carried 95% of the time. yeah bro i want 7 others to carry me toi the finish line !!!!

Rage bait...

Reclear parties are to reclear it .. not first clear.
The only thing that we maybe need are accountwide achievements to join Duty Complete on alt characters without having to join clear parties again.

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Originally Posted by LegendWait

Yea there are protecting something, their private play time. So stop making this about gatekeeping.

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You know what it is to protect something, like one's own private play time? Gatekeeping. Stop falling into the trap that "gatekeeping" is eeeeeeeevil. It's not. It's necessary. Redefining it into something Bad and Terrible and Horrible and that people who GATEKEEP are BAD PEOPLE is meant to stop you from enforcing your boundaries. You know...with gates. That you keep.

So keep your gates. With Duty Complete.