Roulette issues + suggestions

I've been hanging out in Novice Network and get this sentiment from a lot of the other mentors here, and kind of agree.
"I don't queue MSQ roulette because it's always the same thing"
"I don't queue Alliance Raid roulette because it's always crystal tower"
This is a real shame as many of these mentors were and are very helpful, and any new adventurer would benefit from them joining their duties

For the MSQ roulette, I feel like it should include more duties than just the 3 it currently does. Please consider adding in the final duties from each patch to the roulette pool - The Aetherochemical Reserach Facility + Singularity Reactor, Ala Mhigo + The Royal Menagerie, etc. This might be a bit weird especially with pre-formed parties of having some of these duties being 4 and others being 8 people but some sort of improvement / more variety would be amazing to see, and I think these ones really fit this roulette.

For Alliance Raid roulette, there were attempts to address this by adding an item level requirement I believe, but I don't think that's enough. I think that unlocking the first raid of each expansion would go a long way to improving the variety and also help those who would prefer to use duty finder over party finder. This doesn't need to be just locking the roulette (although that is an option), but having a significant penalty for not having each expansion's raids unlocked, or having an additional bonus (more exp, tomes, or clusters) for having them unlocked would go a long way.

I should also mention that I'm on the Materia Data Center too which is less active than most other servers which has lead to a party finder first approach for many things, and often having to settle on an unsynced run for first timers due to sometimes small turn-outs

The MSQ roulette is honestly a lost cause, I don’t know why they wasted time changing it from the old 8 man prae to the current. They learned their lesson and never did that design again for the MSQ and should just cut their losses and make all of that a solo duty like lahabrea

As for alliance alliance should just function like the level 100/expert roulette, if you have the capacity to have a raid unlocked but you don’t you just can’t access the roulette. Once you get to say ShB if you don’t unlock nier then you just can’t do the alliance roulette

I like the idea of locking the roulette access behind your MSQ progress. I understand it's optional content, but they're missing out on so much and torturing everyone else around them by forcing us into Yet Another Crystal Tower Raid Run lol


Please free us from this torment, I yearn for Ivalice

I think the issue lies elswhere: People treat roulettes as "random dungeon wheel" that they do purely for fun. When it is clearly game's way to fill up queues for people who queue for particular duties, thats why you get rewards for the roulettes.
Thats why i think the solution is to rename current routlettes into for example "leveling daily duty" and have in the description the purpose of the duty. Up to consideration if full premade would be blocked. Of course such duty would put massive priority on people queueing for regular duties.
On top of that i think introducing a proper "dungeon/raid roulette" that would just be the for fun would be cool (im not implying regular roulettes cant be fun, but its about the main purpose)

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Originally Posted by Teetam

For the MSQ roulette, I feel like it should include more duties than just the 3 it currently does. Please consider adding in the final duties from each patch to the roulette pool - The Aetherochemical Reserach Facility + Singularity Reactor, Ala Mhigo + The Royal Menagerie, etc. This might be a bit weird especially with pre-formed parties of having some of these duties being 4 and others being 8 people but some sort of improvement / more variety would be amazing to see, and I think these ones really fit this roulette.

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I feel like this would just lead to people leaving the second they see they're in one of the ARR duties - that would completely defeat the purpose of the MSQ Roulette, which is to make sure new players don't have to wait three hours to queue for the ending of ARR.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

The MSQ roulette is honestly a lost cause, I don’t know why they wasted time changing it from the old 8 man prae to the current. They learned their lesson and never did that design again for the MSQ and should just cut their losses and make all of that a solo duty like lahabrea

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This would be awesome!

There are two changes I would like to make to roulettes, one is to move or duplicate Crystal Tower to MSQ roulette and second is to bias roulettes to higher level duties rather than lower level ones since there should always be more low level players than high level ones.

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Originally Posted by ThurinTurambar

I think the issue lies elswhere: People treat roulettes as "random dungeon wheel" that they do purely for fun. When it is clearly game's way to fill up queues for people who queue for particular duties, thats why you get rewards for the roulettes.
Thats why i think the solution is to rename current routlettes into for example "leveling daily duty" and have in the description the purpose of the duty. Up to consideration if full premade would be blocked. Of course such duty would put massive priority on people queueing for regular duties.
On top of that i think introducing a proper "dungeon/raid roulette" that would just be the for fun would be cool (im not implying regular roulettes cant be fun, but its about the main purpose)

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We understand that roulettes exist to help other players while rewarding us, but so many of us are just not doing them anymore unless we really need the reward because it feels like such a chore to get through. The fact is that CT is mandatory now but everything else isn't, so we're all stuck with people who used to force CT by stripping down or never unlocking anything else more than sprouts genuinely running the content.


I think locking the roulette if you haven't unlocked the relevant content for your level is fair. They do it with Expert and the other one that used to be in Expert, but isn't anymore for some reason. Just give us a chance to get something different than CT, and if a sprout is running it then we run it, no complaints from me. But I'm sick of being in a group of 24 lvl100s and somehow getting Labyrinth of the Ancients yet again.

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Originally Posted by Shistar

We understand that roulettes exist to help other players while rewarding us, but so many of us are just not doing them anymore unless we really need the reward because it feels like such a chore to get through. The fact is that CT is mandatory now but everything else isn't, so we're all stuck with people who used to force CT by stripping down or never unlocking anything else more than sprouts genuinely running the content.


I think locking the roulette if you haven't unlocked the relevant content for your level is fair. They do it with Expert and the other one that used to be in Expert, but isn't anymore for some reason. Just give us a chance to get something different than CT, and if a sprout is running it then we run it, no complaints from me. But I'm sick of being in a group of 24 lvl100s and somehow getting Labyrinth of the Ancients yet again.

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Hmm that do be true, i guess putting requirement of item level to match the job level and duties unlocked would be a decent solution. To be completely honest, i have stopped doing alliance/msq roulette unless im with some friends, you got a point