Is 7.2 the last patch to even save Dawntrail at this point?(SPOILERS AHOY)

7.0 was a disaster. 7.1 was a continuation of that. Will 7.2 be any different? Because right now 7.16(A SMALL PATCH!) has been a complete disaster. Untranslated lines. Story writing being thrown down the drain as if it's written by ChatGPT. How hard is it to ask for a good story? I didn't mind comedic villains being the thing, but I'm not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel - instead I'm seeing a dead end. I might not want to jump ship yet, but I honestly think they only have one chance.

7.2 has to be a FIX to everything that has gone wrong since 7.0 started, since let's be real: people smack Stormblood around because of its pacing, and 7.0 isn't any better - it's worse. However, Stormblood picked up quite a good deal in its Post-Patch quests. This lead to an interesting story for Yotsuyu and everyone's favorite Samurai Gosetsu; yet, there are things that I feel are mainly set-up currently from 7.1's story, and if I hit it beat for beat in 7.2 I'm going to kick myself since this is going into speculation territory.

We have 2 Sphenes. 1 Sphene is akin to DeathGPT, the other is...we don't know! We assume alive, but they may very well be the other part of the personality that Sphene had - the good one. This leads to a lot of questions as to what they're trying to write about, as originally Living Memory was about 'letting go' so to speak with how we shut down all these attractions. It was a literal theme park we turned into a dull world! We got some exposition about Gulool Ja's origins, as well as Koana's - but that's mainly backstory that we should've gotten in 7.0, if I'll be frank.

NEO Regulators make me question whether we're actually going to see Living Memory become active again - as well as have yet another threat to deal with to the Source since last time we pulled the plug, we took our damn time while DeathGPT was processing the end of all living things. This time, they need to write Bad Sphene in a way that can actually make a differential between the two meaningful - because what's the point if we get the same 'Nice Sphene' act we got when we first arrived in Alexandria, and the 'Mean Sphene' act we got after we uncovered Otis? There has to be a motive behind this split to actually make sense, otherwise they're repeating some of the issues they had in post-patch Endwalker after 6.2(and don't get me started on Ysh'tola...)

Either way, the raid content is probably going to distract us for at least a few months before we get 7.25, Shade's Triangle - which, they need to not botch if things are not well-received on the writing end for the next raid tier(which has been excellent this first tier mind). They have to set their story straight irregardless since 7.2 will more than likely give us a new trial to deal with in MSQ(if not, then I will be sorely disappointed unless it's a return to Side Quest).

There's only so long we can do the same song and dance, so the dev team needs to INNOVATE.

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

7.2 has to be a FIX to everything that has gone wrong since 7.0 /B]

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GGWP cuz thats not gonna happen.

oh my god, what if they attempt to retcon the whole "erase all the memories in Living Memory" because most players had some serious issues with the writing in that zone, and instead of dealing with the consequences of that happening and/or trying to move on to something else so we can just forget this whole Dawntrail thing ever happened like a bad dream, they instead go, "Look, it's okay, we found a way to restore Sphene all the memories! Hooray! Everyone is happy!"

It sounds outlandish, but everything about late Endwalker and Dawntrail compared to what came before has been pretty outlandish in how stupid things have gotten, so...

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Originally Posted by Ath192

GGWP cuz thats not gonna happen.

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Thanks for taking out of context - definitely could do with more I don't know; constructive discussion?

I'm probably going to tune out 7.2 regardless. As soon as it starts going back into "Talk to Wuk Lamat" constantly like 7.0 and 7.1 I'm just zoning out and going on autopilot.

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

Thanks for taking out of context - definitely could do with more I don't know; constructive discussion?

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There isn't much to discuss. The damage has been done, faith in CS3 is gone, and Yoshida's still acting as if everything's fine while the majority of the money made by XIV goes to flop after flop. Fixing things would require them to acknowledge that there is a problem.

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Originally Posted by CuteBucket

oh my god, what if they attempt to retcon the whole "erase all the memories in Living Memory" because most players had some serious issues with the writing in that zone, and instead of dealing with the consequences of that happening and/or trying to move on to something else so we can just forget this whole Dawntrail thing ever happened like a bad dream, they instead go, "Look, it's okay, we found a way to restore Sphene all the memories! Hooray! Everyone is happy!"

It sounds outlandish, but everything about late Endwalker and Dawntrail compared to what came before has been pretty outlandish in how stupid things have gotten, so...

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The big thing that grated me a lot was their focus on NOSTALGIA. They ripped XIV a new one in Post-Patch Endwalker with that, and it's basically "insert Trial Series Story here" without any build-up for Dawntrail(mind, that build-up for DT was A SINGULAR PATCH). Also, the bar's in the f***ing ground. I don't know how much more there is to ask at this point because if they go below that, then the game's going to die harder than WoW's BFA did when they screwed up big time.

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Originally Posted by CuteBucket

oh my god, what if they attempt to retcon the whole "erase all the memories in Living Memory" because most players had some serious issues with the writing in that zone, and instead of dealing with the consequences of that happening and/or trying to move on to something else so we can just forget this whole Dawntrail thing ever happened like a bad dream, they instead go, "Look, it's okay, we found a way to restore Sphene all the memories! Hooray! Everyone is happy!"

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After the catastrophe of Sphene's failure to protect and nurture the Living Memory, the peacekeepers of Everkeep analyze the data, update their software and we learn that the hive is in fact protected by a mastermind firewall. All our efforts go to waste. They play a backup file, corrupt the Alexandrians with a brain virus turning them into high tech zombie soldiers, restore the Endless and since the barrier is broken, start to suck the aether out of Tural. The threat of an actual apocalypse ruins your taste for taccos. Citizens live in terror. There is no more sweet talk with Spheeeeeeene (Listen to me!) to fix this. Only the united alliances of Garlemald, Sharlayan, Eorzea and Othard can save the star from another calamity. But then, another developed society steps out the shadows and threatens to drop a nuclear bomb. Wuk Lamat breaks down realizing that her nativity almost killed everyone and feels finally actually humbled by her own shortcomings.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

There isn't much to discuss. The damage has been done, faith in CS3 is gone, and Yoshida's still acting as if everything's fine while the majority of the money made by XIV goes to flop after flop. Fixing things would require them to acknowledge that there is a problem.

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Yoshida probably is following corporate interests, I won't lie - especially since their CEOs had an NFT obsession which the Gaming Market denied harshly. However, I've sat for a lot of the 'wait and see' crowd. I'm more speculating how much further they can screw this up because I'm almost certain that it can go into the ground if they're going to pull another Post-Patch EW on us.

for me overall DT was good.

Classes- ok
fights - OK
MSQ- meh. repetitive and predictable and let me guess.. ASCIANS!!