Patch 7.1 Notes: PvP

The 7.1 patch notes are out. Looks like significant changes to CC and RW. And there's the hit detection alteration we'd already heard about for all modes.

Beyond that for FL?

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Absolutely nothing.

We didn't even get damage reduction toggles to give us something to argue about.

Truly pathetic.

Edit: If I'm remembering correctly, balance changes are often skipped in the prelim notes, so I guess we might see something in the final version.

Interested to see how the hit register changes play out. Shame there arent any animation lock changes.

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Originally Posted by Mecia

Interested to see how the hit register changes play out. Shame there arent any animation lock changes.

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Yeah it'll be interesting if we can even tell the difference given the netcode.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

The 7.1 patch notes are out. Looks like significant changes to CC and RW. And there's the hit detection alteration we'd already heard about for all modes.

Beyond that for FL?

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Absolutely nothing.

We didn't even get damage reduction toggles to give us something to argue about.

Truly pathetic.

Edit: If I'm remembering correctly, balance changes are often skipped in the prelim notes, so I guess we might see something in the final version.

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I thought I heard Frontline changes was coming in 7.2

Ya, they won't say any changes till servers go down.

Most fl changes are happening in 7.2. Job changes will be happening in 7.1.

They already said in live letters that FL changes are postponed to 7.2, which I do agree, is frankly "pathetic".

The preliminary patch notes never display are raw numbers, so you can expect the usual bandaid innate DR adjustments for FL. They actually talked about this, and for LB generation adjustments as well. This will happen because jobs and a few things system side are going to change, so that's the minimum amount of work until their bigger changes for 7.2.

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Originally Posted by Valence

They already said in live letters that FL changes are postponed to 7.2, which I do agree, is frankly "pathetic".

The preliminary patch notes never display are raw numbers, so you can expect the usual bandaid innate DR adjustments for FL. They actually talked about this, and for LB generation adjustments as well. This will happen because jobs and a few things system side are going to change, so that's the minimum amount of work until their bigger changes for 7.2.

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Honestly I think I'm going to be more annoyed if we get some small and likely apparently arbitrary changes to damage modifications. But yeah, you're absolutely correct.

If they didn't release these notes on Shatter day I wouldn't have all this time to bleat about them.

Although FL specific changes are coming in 7.2 this doesn't mean FL wont be drastically affected by 7.1

On the contrary (for many of the newer players) the x.1 PvP updates usually bring some very big job changes. Very big, on the magnitude of job identity level changes. The most recent example being the shift from ShB PvP to EW PvP and crystalline conflict style job kits.

So although Frontline specifically wont get any updates, the job changes themselves will surely completely break the current meta. The addition of level 100 abilities in the PvP job kits alone will cause things to change considerably. I expect to see a few old abilities completely changed or even outright removed (miracle of nature, salted earth, riddle of earth, etc.) So it will be fun to see what the new OP jobs are, haha.

Seems like a lot of QOL changes.

If frontlines is not affected much that means the devs are expecting the community to test out the changes. That's all. We already heard more changes coming for 6.2.

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Originally Posted by Sinstrel

Although FL specific changes are coming in 7.2 this doesn't mean FL wont be drastically affected by 7.1

On the contrary (for many of the newer players) the x.1 PvP updates usually bring some very big job changes. Very big, on the magnitude of job identity level changes. The most recent example being the shift from ShB PvP to EW PvP and crystalline conflict style job kits.

So although Frontline specifically wont get any updates, the job changes themselves will surely completely break the current meta. The addition of level 100 abilities in the PvP job kits alone will cause things to change considerably. I expect to see a few old abilities completely changed or even outright removed (miracle of nature, salted earth, riddle of earth, etc.) So it will be fun to see what the new OP jobs are, haha.

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I really hope you're right. What worries me is at no point in any of the PLL or Notes has any reference been made to what is currently wrong with FL. And if we follow recent trends and rebalancing/changes in jobs are based on the 5v5 mode, I don't see any of the structural changes in FL being addressed at all. Like if the meta changes, it'll be a CC-based accident and may well be for the worse.