Unsure really where to leave this one.
Maybe in DPS? Maybe in Localisation Feedback? Ended up deciding it was a UI issue I guess.
All of the AoEs I can find in the game have some mention of what they actually hit.
"All nearby enemies"
"Target and all enemies nearby it"
"All enemies in a cone before you"
"All enemies in a straight line before you"
The following AoE skills don't have anything like that. They just jump straight to describing the potency and the drop off percentage.
- All 3 hits of PCT hammer
- Star Prism
- Reawaken (the actual GCD to start the mode)
- All GCDs and OGCDs in reawaken, including the Ouroboros GCD
- Uncoiled Fury and the 2 OGCD follow ups
You can make assumptions for the most part as to what kind of AoEs they are but they really should be in the description.
Some new AoEs missing the description on the AoE "shape"
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10-28-2024, 11:04 PMPen_NinjaSome new AoEs missing the description on the AoE "shape"
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11-07-2024, 01:11 AMLibitIncarneCircleQuote:
Originally Posted by Pen_Ninja
Line (This one should be noted as such)
Circle around yourself (This one is pretty unique)
Cone
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11-07-2024, 06:42 AMRongwayThe text itself is a matter of localization. However, there is an opportunity for UI/UX improvement here if they change the format of the Action Helps to include the AoE shape indicators next to the radius number, like they have on the Job Guide (see Job Guide: Red Mage which has every AoE shape except donut).Quote:
Originally Posted by Pen_Ninja
All of those actions are circles. The PCT line attack is Rainbow Drip (which is noted as such), not Star Prism. The VPR Generations and Legacies require a target and hit everything in a radius around that target. You can see the circles on the ground during each hit indicating the affected area (DT Action Trailer: Jump to Viper Reawaken). Reawaken does not require a target and will hit everything around the player.Quote:
Originally Posted by LibitIncarne
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11-08-2024, 04:07 PMPen_Ninja
I guess this kind of proves the whole point.
Without the AoE types written, people may forget or misunderstand what they are.
It's not the biggest deal. I get these are all circles but there are other circle AoEs that specify that they are as such.
Also not specifying whether the AoE is around the player or the target, while you can technically determine that from the range and radius of the skill, it should be written.
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11-08-2024, 05:53 PMRongwayThe Japanese text of the hammer attacks and Star Prism read:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pen_Ninja
The Viper actions you listed all read:Quote:
Originally Posted by Job Guide - Pictomancer (JP Version*)
"Non-elemental area magic attack on target and surrounding enemies," and, "Area physical attack on target and surrounding enemies," respectively, so yeah, localization oversight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Job Guide - Viper (JP Version*)
Still a good reason to improve the UI and add the AoE shape icons to the Radius fields.
* If you're ever interested in looking at the other languages for any page in the Job Guide or in the Lodestone's Eorzea Database, you just need to change the na subdomain to jp, fr, or de. For example, the PCT pages are: