White mage is the weakest healer in regards to personal cooldowns, and mit. Every healer got things to cover their weaknesses in dawntrail.
Scholar got the seraphisim skill to help with sustained hps which was their weakness
Sage got another raid wide heal and healing potency buff for bigger shields.
Astro got sun sign so you actually get a benefit in very high end optimization play at high levels even if you don’t cast aspected Helios itself because it’s a dps loss. For midcore and casual Astrid it’s another defensive.
What we needed to shore up our weaknesses was another mit or shield but holding it hostage behind our 10% was not the play. We can’t rotate shields or mit unlike the other healers. We should have the flexibility to use our shield when we want to. I don’t understand the point of a shield when we already have a 10% up. That and its duration is only 10 seconds which is very awkward. I’m fine with that and can adjust to it, but it’s unforgiving and unusual to midcore and casual. It’s the only healer aoe shield that’s not 30 seconds.
I personally would rather have it as a cooldown by itself but if you must lock it behind another action I’d rather have weaker shields but more often via assize. Or asylum. Anything really besides temperance.
I’d also like to point out that square enix divided the healer role into “pure” and “shield” subroles. Imo it’s unhealthy the direction the healers are going. With all the recent additions, there really is no reason to bring a white mage to any content.
Scholar and sage with their new cap skills encroach upon pure healer identity but the pure healers can\\'t really compete with the shield healers with the tools they have at their disposal. Shield healers have shields, multiple percentage based mit, regens, aoe burst hps and now aoe sustained hps. Astro is better off than white mage because it has shields and mit that aren’t locked together and multiple forms of it. But white mage lacks those options.
ATM in high end gameplay double shield has never been more comfortable. You can rotate between deploy for two minute mechanics, Zoe for one minute mechanics alongside percentage mit and regens and you’ll be very healthy and safe. If all else fails seraphisim will save the group. Astro has a better argument to bring over a white mage because cards and more mit. But even double shield is fulfilling the niche that white mage had which is being comfy.
White mage and Astro have been balanced for a while via white mage providing significant more personal dps vs Astro providing more raid dps via buffs and card at the cost of low personal dps. At the moment the balancing is pretty sketchy. If you go ahead with the announced job changes to Astro and reduce the draw cooldown from one minute to less it’ll 100% skew the balance that is already a bit wonky. Please keep that in mind and buff white mage potencies in line with Astro draw cooldown reduced so Astro mains can be happy and so white mages won’t 100% be left in the dust.
Because if you don’t we truly won’t be better then at anything besides holy spam and cure 3 spam. One of those is only for dungeon content/very high end optimization and the other is very niche.
White mage issues
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07-06-2024, 11:48 PMAutumnsHollowWhite mage issues
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07-07-2024, 05:20 PMVladmiere
Maybe bring Stoneskin back to white mage? IDK. I actually liked stone skin hmm. I still think a mechanic around res 3 and complete heal is viable for a White mage. Blessing of Pheonix? Plus maybe separate the lilly system. Let you build both blood and normal and keep the damage aspect and healing separate giving you two forms of gauge built up.
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07-07-2024, 10:32 PMPhileas
With the latest update to healers i feel like the shield healer/pure healer is starting to show its cracks. Pure healers want additional mitigation and shield healers need more hp healing tools so they can function independently in duty finder.
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07-07-2024, 10:41 PMSupersnow845The only thing is that shield healers don’t need these pure healing abilitiesQuote:
Originally Posted by Phileas
Seraphism is hilariously overpowered and philosophia is just redundant
The regen healers needed the mitigation but WHM’s is still stupidly tied to temperance -
07-07-2024, 10:55 PMConnor
I wonder if Yoshi-P gave the developers specific instructions to make White Mage always sit in the ‘sucky boring healer’ position relative to the others. Not sure why else they fail so miserably at ‘balancing’, when it’s literally the only thing they give a shit about anymore. Kinda hilarious when you think about it; they can’t even do their one thing right anymore lol. I mean, look at the ridiculous state their ‘shield/pure’ healer split is in.
Yoshi-P is a Black Mage, maybe he wants White Mage to always be the weakest since they’re his natural sworn enemy -
07-07-2024, 11:42 PMVladmiere
I do not understand why Scholar got Seraphim.... Do scholars have an ability that steal powers from other jobs now? It should have been the ultimate white mage power and increased their damage abilities at same time.
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07-07-2024, 11:52 PMTundaI do believe that no one in balance team ACTUALLY play healer.. at least no casuallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Connor
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07-08-2024, 12:29 AMPayadopa
Ngl, that's what I don't like about the current design. First we make this arbitrary distinction between pure and shield healers only to then give them the other "ability category" on top. And if it's not 100% symmetrical raiders will request it to be changed.
Pure healers shouldn't have shields, shield healers shouldn't have HoT/strong healing (at least not to the amount they currently do) yet SCH has the strongest regen if I recall correctly and AST's lvl 100 ability is a shield I think. I don't even know where to start with that one.
I know the devs have good intentions but this pleases no-one. What's the point of a job system where you literally change at the press of a button if all must play so similarly? Not a fan.