BLM changes are really tonedeaf

I've been playing BLM since Shadowbringers and with the changes to the class in Endwalker, I felt like I had alot more freedom in how to play the class due to the nature of non-standard rotation.

Mainly the point that we had mana ticks and didn't need to always be casting Blizzard spells. Plus the addition of Paradox (ice).

However, with these new changes to BLM, the class does feel really guttered and that the devs are forcing only one way to play BLM.

One of the changes that speak loudest to me that whoever designed the change around Manaticks and removing nonstandard gameplay is honestly that the devs added a 3rd Xeno Slot..... Most of the time I barely have 1 stack of Xeno and it's not like we are getting a buff to Amplifier that'll give us more than 1 stack of Xeno.

Honestly, the changes to manatick and the death of non-standard gameplay is really disappointing and just feels like the Devs don't understand what made BLM so unique and enjoyable as a class.

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Originally Posted by Shunik

I've been playing BLM since Shadowbringers and with the changes to the class in Endwalker, I felt like I had alot more freedom in how to play the class due to the nature of non-standard rotation.

Mainly the point that we had mana ticks and didn't need to always be casting Blizzard spells. Plus the addition of Paradox (ice).

However, with these new changes to BLM, the class does feel really guttered and that the devs are forcing only one way to play BLM.

One of the changes that speak loudest to me that whoever designed the change around Manaticks and removing nonstandard gameplay is honestly that the devs added a 3rd Xeno Slot..... Most of the time I barely have 1 stack of Xeno and it's not like we are getting a buff to Amplifier that'll give us more than 1 stack of Xeno.

Honestly, the changes to manatick and the death of non-standard gameplay is really disappointing and just feels like the Devs don't understand what made BLM so unique and enjoyable as a class.

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Agreed on alot of things.

We will have to begrudgingly(mostly as a joke, but still having to adjust) try it out.

and if not, hopefully find out another role does us nicely.

I still have yet to take a good look at the Data from the Media Tour.

And I saw somethings about the Mana Gain, and the Upgraded "Manaflow".

Hopefully the Mana Regen ain't that bad.
And skill expression makes a return in future expansion.

Agreed. The mana recovery adjustment alone is awful.

This is like when MNK had an alternate rotation with those kicks and they killed that too. They won't back down from this. It's GG.

Would be more forgivable if Thunder/Xeno spells were made oGCD. Could probably get behind it otherwise but the current changes seem bad to me. Easy swap to PCT.

From what I saw in the media tour, you cast like... one ice spell before you swap back to fire. and there's a lot more fire then before. there's one ice spell that regens 10,000 MP. That's the whole bar.

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Originally Posted by justausername

From what I saw in the media tour, you cast like... one ice spell before you swap back to fire. and there's a lot more fire then before. there's one ice spell that regens 10,000 MP. That's the whole bar.

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blizz 3 gives 5k and blizz 4 gives 10k ,

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Would be more forgivable if Thunder/Xeno spells were made oGCD. Could probably get behind it otherwise but the current changes seem bad to me. Easy swap to PCT.

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I kinda feel that this is exactly their intention. They always make changes at the start of an expac with new jobs coming out, then sorta fix things later. They want people to play the new stuff for one reason or another , so it looks like a success since so many people tried it.

I can understand people doing some non-standard rotation might be upset.

But as a casual BLM I was still just switching to ice, using Blizzard 4 and any procs available, then going back to Fire and I don't see it being much different with or without mana ticks?

To me the worst thing they could have done on BLM is remove the countdown timer that allows Fire/Ice to expire and reduce cast times to 1.5 seconds, because that would make the job as easy as red mage. But from what I have seen that is still there. I actually was concerned they'd remove it given they have on other jobs (ie. GL4, Blood of the Dragon, Darkside, Huton). But they must be aware of how that is what makes the job appealing to play for many people. The fact it's one of the few jobs you have to "manage" something still while also overcoming long cast times and moving during busy mechanics.

As much as repositioning leylines is a bit of a nerf, often if leylines gets misplaced once it will a second time anyway because mechanics don't always happen in one direction.

My first impression what happening is:
Players: Please make more complex nontrivial job rotations
SE: We made jobs more casual friendly :D