For the first 2 weeks of a tier, to enter a raid we should need to be at the entrance

Ok hear me out on this one before you decry how annoying this would be:

Back in ARR or 1.0, in order to enter each tier of coil you had to be outside the raid entrance as an entire party. This actually brought about a very unique experience:

1. you get to see friends and regulars and see how everyone's gear is progressing each week
2. there was a lot of community action around the area
3. it made the overworld feel way more lively

Some of my fondest memories were more from the fun I had outside the raid than actually in the raid.

Right now we have the convenience of not doing this, but as a consequence the overworld is pretty dead outside of things like Yokai, and everyone just hangs around in their FC/personal house. It's like the same issue with WoW Garrisons isolating players.

And with cross-world being a thing I don't mean everyone should need to be in the same world, just the same zone as the entrance is.

On the flip side, I can see how this would be annoying, which is why I'm proposing that this is only applied for like the first few weeks of a new raid/dungeon.

i think thats actually a pretty nice idea.

also its not a big deal since we dont have raids hiding in a corner of the map in an elite area packed with deadly high lvl enemies you need like half an hour to reach each time you go there.

If you really want to gather at the entrance, you can still do that without dragging the rest of us over there unwillingly.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

If you really want to gather at the entrance, you can still do that without dragging the rest of us over there unwillingly.

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Then how about this, give a +5min food bonus on top of any current FC buffs if you are near the entrance?

Now if you don't want to be at the entrance you don't have to, and people who do get a little inconsequential bonus.

People aren't hanging out in their housing, unless a static has chosen someone's house as a gathering point because they want to avoid crowds.

They're hanging out in Limsa, Gridania and Ul'dah as they usually do.

If the bonus is as inconsequential as you say, it's not going to get anyone to hang out at the raid entrance any more than they already do.

it really make the open world feel more lively when the raid entrance is in an out of the way location that no one goes to except to enter the raid not to mention the SB, ShB and EW raids have their own separate lobbies that players have to go through to get to the entrance.

Players who want the world to feel like a lively place do hunts, going from world to world for the next train or S rank.

If all raiders are doing is waiting for their party to fill or everyone in their static to get online, they're better off doing it where players are already hanging out and not at the raid entrance.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Players who want the world to feel like a lively place do hunts, going from world to world for the next train or S rank.

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In theory hunts and the suggestion do the same thing, but as someone who does hunts and where around to experience the entrance thing I can't stress how different the two are.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

Then how about this, give a +5min food bonus on top of any current FC buffs if you are near the entrance?

Now if you don't want to be at the entrance you don't have to, and people who do get a little inconsequential bonus.

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I already get +15 min food duration from squadron scrolls and I get 10 scrolls per week at the cost of talking to my squadron manager once a week. Another +5min on top of that would be useless, as it won't change the number of foods I have to eat each raid instance.

the deep dungeons require people to queue at the entrance and it is extremely difficult to find people to run them......

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

For the first 2 weeks of a tier, to enter a raid we should need to be at the entrance

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Perhaps a silly question, but: Normal, Savage, or both? Because I honestly don't see how this has any upsides for Normal. (I haven't raided Savage enough to have an informed opinion there.)

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Originally Posted by Rongway

I already get +15 min food duration from squadron scrolls and I get 10 scrolls per week at the cost of talking to my squadron manager once a week. Another +5min on top of that would be useless, as it won't change the number of foods I have to eat each raid instance.

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Which is the point, I don't want to force you there if you don't want to be there, but give a tiny amount to someone on the fence about being there.

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Originally Posted by Ancalagon_Blacktalon

the deep dungeons require people to queue at the entrance and it is extremely difficult to find people to run them......

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That doesn't really have anything to do with this mechanic though, that's just cause deep dungeon is not popular. And all raid content eventually becomes unpopular, which is why I propose a time cutoff of a few weeks, maybe a month, and then it becomes free-queue.

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Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu

Perhaps a silly question, but: Normal, Savage, or both? Because I honestly don't see how this has any upsides for Normal. (I haven't raided Savage enough to have an informed opinion there.)

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Imo just savage. Normal mode doers doing it the first time basically direct queue from the story without any prep anyway. But I didn't think this much into the actual details of the implementation.