In DAWNTRAILS, will 1 or 2 primals be added to Summoner's rotation?

Even though we still have a while to go for the JP Fanfest, DT media tours, etc. As far as Summoner goes, do you think they will add another primal or two to the rotation? I will be honest with you, I do miss some of the spells from the old summoner like Shadow Flare & the original use for BANE.

Will Leviathan be added? I would love to see Ramuh be added to the rotation!!

They should add Levy, Ramuh and Shiva.

They will probably add one.

Their rotation is fine as it is, probably just gonna see new OGCDs added to it... Unless they completely rework the class, again.

Hopefully a Physick buff that's like 3 expansions late, to make it scale with INT rather than MND like RDM's Vercure does...

With how SMN is now, I fully expect that any new primals added will just be a reskin for the current ones based on whether you used Bahamut or Phoenix.

Either that or they become fire and forget oGCDs.

Passive changes Physik to AoE Heal Summon.

Fester and Energy Drain get renamed/modeled into Primal abilities.

I could see them taking the lazy route and just adding ramuh, leviathan and shiva as upgrades to Titan, ifrit and garuda in the Phoenix phase spread out across the 10 levels then giving us an elder primal like Odin as the capstone new demi summon which would then set them up for a holding pattern into the future (next expansion Sephirot, sophia, zurvan in the Odin phase with capstone Alexander).

If they were gonna put in a little more work, I’d personally love them to get rid of all traces of arcanist from the job, energy drain/siphon, fester and painflare really feel like button bloat at this point that could just be removed and have their potency added elsewhere, maybe they could remove physick and resurrection and give carbuncle healing ruby and some new revive move as oGCDs to A. Give carbuncle some love B. Differentiate it more from RDM. And if we’re really talking wishlist, remove ruin too, replace it with summon assault I and II making carbuncle perform an attack (that’s basically ruin but now it’s actually a pet doing something!) which then upgrades to wyrm wave when you summon Bahamut etc. with potency adjusted accordingly.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Their rotation is fine as it is, probably just gonna see new OGCDs added to it... Unless they completely rework the class, again.

Hopefully a Physick buff that's like 3 expansions late, to make it scale with INT rather than MND like RDM's Vercure does...

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In all likelihood they'll flat out remove Physick or leave it be, they already mentioned getting rid of rez for smn, they just didnt during latest rework cause they wanted to see how well it plays for now.

As for new summons, if we get any new they'll prolly act as "upgrade" skills to current one or add them as a 2nd set of summons, baha>OG summons>enix>new summons>baha, kind of deal.

Hopefully all the new primal spells are casts with proper unique mechanics of their own and the summons stay for a while instead of showing up just to immediately leave back to their home planet

I could see getting three new demis as alterations to the current three when going into phoenix phase. I doubt they'd want to change the existing flow of the job too much again this soon after the rework, so that makes the most sense to me. There's always a chance they'll want to stick to their """lore reasons""" for why we can't get new ones though, but that's bollocks at this point anyway, with everything the WoL has been able to do.