Remember that feeling when you realized the Empire technological superiority, its enourmous recources and vastness as you climb Big Freaking Great Wall which they built just to devide continents as well as every time you see capital warships in lead of entire fleets.
As in narative shown in Endwalker trailer (if you watch before playthrough) I was hoping to see streets still being torn between survived military and their own ambitious war projects ("Skynet" automated robot army and production, omega replicas, clones, mutants, various machine prototypes, resonance supersoldiers, etc). With surviving leadership (Nerva?) hiding in "Enclave" bunker commanding soldiers in struggle to return control over empire defense and supply systems. I was hoping to see the Empire societal collapse with all its scientific and industrious superiority turning agaisnt it which was probably the end Allagans met which is a bit poetic and by the way become popular depiction of real world end.
I still see how it can be shown in other "industrial capitals" of the empire which can even be larger then the political one. Where empire remnants and fanatics are still trying to restore order.
Fanfiction besides, if I see various magitek tech in hands of mercenaries or emprie legions becoming merceneries themselves (with custom paint over its magitek machinery as future mounts; ) - that will make me very happy already.
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10-19-2023, 01:16 AMBoysPlease don't just cut off Garlean Empire trope or take too long with it.
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10-19-2023, 05:09 AMEdwinLiWe may not start seeing these aspects until we reach the regions where remnents of the Garlean Empire were left stranded after they lost contact with the Garlean Empire. Anyone in the Garlean Empire who would want to cause such issues in their current situation are most likely dead at this point due to the horde of monsters since they let their Garlean Pride make them take actions that guarantee their deaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boys
It has been mentioned before the Garlean Empire has stationed themselves in places beyond Eorzea and once the Empire fell, their status remain unknown for now. How these remnents are handling their situation may vary but from many different types of stories dealing with such situations from other series, it may vary from becoming Warlords, adapting to their new home, trying to keep tradition, or using this opportunity for a fresh start based on the type of leader who is stationed in those locations.
We seen a bit of this with Gabranth and his faction as they plan to start fresh in a certain regions but that story will take time to be continued though people are hoping it maybe a new Expansion when it finally does. -
10-19-2023, 07:09 AMEnkidoh
Apart from a number of Imperial provinces we haven't yet visited or seen in Ilsabard, there isn't actually "lost remnants" stationed beyond Eorzea, because the Empire never got beyond Aldernard due to Gaius continuously failing to subjugate the realm (the only other Imperial provinces were in Othard and, well, we've liberated those). There has been lots of headcanons about some being in Tural, but that is just based on vague assumptions with no basis in fact (until SE proves otherwise).
I know it's a bitter pill to swallow, but it's clear the Empire is now dead - slain by it's own hand and now lying in state in it's black ashen shroud - just like it's creator wanted, ironically. Certainly Garlemald will rebuild as the survivors of the civil war and the Telephori's tempering come together with the Alliance's assistance, but with a new non Imperial government decided by it's people. -
10-19-2023, 08:14 AMCilia
Garlemald was half undone by internal strife, half by an outside manipulator (Fandaniel played both sides of the latest Garlean Civil War against each other).
... but yeah, as far as we know the Empire never extended beyond the Three Great Continents and so is unlikely to have any presence in Tural based on that. We may return for some ancillary stories and there's almost certainly going to be an Ishgard-style restoration project at some point, but the Empire's story largely concluded in Endwalker. -
10-19-2023, 09:17 AMEdwinLiEither way, the development team already said they wanted to step away from this type of plot for a while so they can focus on newer plots so we are still in for a long wait until they finally decide to start exploring what became of the Garlean Remnents outside of the known regions we can currently explore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
We just have to be patient and pray they do not forget it during the process of making their new storyline. The Gabranth faction is still the one largest plot point they left unfinished intentionally and even with his "rumored death" it is uncertain if it is what really happens or just some ploy to keep people from knowing his real plans. -
10-19-2023, 10:57 AMClereticI don't, actually. 'Evil empire with fancy tech in an otherwise fantasy setting' is such a well-worn RPG trope that it no longer registers to me unless you do something interesting with it; I legitimately don't remember any responses I had to Empire stuff (outside of them shooting down Shiva but that's for different reasons) until Yotsuyu turned up. FFXIV took until Endwalker to find that 'something interesting', and that something happened to be to blow it up and check out the ruins. Hell, it kinda hurts them that they're not even the most advanced tech force in the game; Allag has been leaving Garlemald in its shadow ever since Azys Lla for me, and Allag isn't even alive anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boys
Yes, the Garleans deserve a nice, fuller wrapup of their story; it'll be interesting to see how they pick back up and rebuild, provided that their answer is not 'more caestrums'. Anyone trying to rebuild the Empire as it was is the worst thing they could do.
But on the other hand, we deserve a break from the Garleans. The Garleans have been a significant part of the MSQ for every single part of it, and the focus of at least one piece of tentpole side content for every single expansion until Endwalker. They're the most pervasive part of the game world by far; at least the Ascians and Scions skipped out a few times. One of the most exciting parts about Dawntrail to me is seeing what this game can be without the overarching story and villains it's had all this time, and the Garleans are a part of that. -
10-19-2023, 12:02 PMYuella
It may not be in the MSQ but they're hinting at Garlean restoration / reclamation in 6.5. Jullus Custom Delivery in 7.1 maybe?
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10-19-2023, 12:03 PMIscahI can count "every time" on zero hands. They never had a strong ocean-going presence; that's why we could shut them down so effectively by building a single (albeit high-tech) fence across their airship route.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boys
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10-19-2023, 12:20 PMClereticThere's the Dalriada turning up after Delubrum Reginae, I guess? That's not really what's happening in that scene, that's basically just the Dalriada, but it does sort of have the same feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
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10-20-2023, 02:50 AMMikkoAkureIt would have to be some place away from the existing zone though like with Doma.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuella
Sidequests, mob placement, and hunts depend on the part of Garlemald we have access to remaining a smoking ruin filled with mobs.
I just wish completing the role capstone quest would finally shut off the evil aura on the Tower of Babil or better yet make it collapse.