Wondrous Tails question

I'm not sure this is a bug per se, so I thought I'd ask and see if I had just missed something. The 6.5 patch notes regarding Wondrous Tails said:

"In the event players have not unlocked certain duties, the available objectives will change."

Yet both I and the friend I play with haven't seen this. We are both still getting things we haven't unlocked. Just today (late on it) I got The Minstrel's Ballad: Hydaelyn's Call, which I don't have unlocked. This is just the most obvious one, not the only one. It will happen for every row but the top (where it is just do duties of certain levels).

We cannot figure out why it isn't working, and so far Google has told us nothing. It has only been two books, but it is odd that it is both of us. Is it actually a bug or are we just missing some step? I feel like we are doing something wrong since we haven't found other posts about this issue. There might be, we just can't find them.

I have the same issue on an alt that has a Lv.90 job but isn't even into Shadowbringers yet. I have plenty of duties in the list that I literally cannot do as they are obviously not unlocked.

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Originally Posted by Miss_Sadie

I'm not sure this is a bug per se, so I thought I'd ask and see if I had just missed something. The 6.5 patch notes regarding Wondrous Tails said:

"In the event players have not unlocked certain duties, the available objectives will change."

Yet both I and the friend I play with haven't seen this. We are both still getting things we haven't unlocked. Just today (late on it) I got The Minstrel's Ballad: Hydaelyn's Call, which I don't have unlocked. This is just the most obvious one, not the only one. It will happen for every row but the top (where it is just do duties of certain levels).

We cannot figure out why it isn't working, and so far Google has told us nothing. It has only been two books, but it is odd that it is both of us. Is it actually a bug or are we just missing some step? I feel like we are doing something wrong since we haven't found other posts about this issue. There might be, we just can't find them.

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I guess the catch is the word "certain". That implies it won't affect all unlocked duties, only some of them.

It would probably take the community working together to figure out which are affected and which aren't.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I guess the catch is the word "certain". That implies it won't affect all unlocked duties, only some of them.

It would probably take the community working together to figure out which are affected and which aren't.

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That makes a lot of sense, while being very disappointing. We were so happy to see that on the patch notes. We're both more casual players so doing the newer extremes and raids is a lot of work for a book stamp. Raids are possible, but the new extremes are just a no there. We only go for the mounts/clearing it when we can do it undersized, from lack of a static and lack of time to spend on learning the one trial. I guess maybe they reroll spoiler ones?

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Originally Posted by TheHyperFusion

I have the same issue on an alt that has a Lv.90 job but isn't even into Shadowbringers yet. I have plenty of duties in the list that I literally cannot do as they are obviously not unlocked.

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Are they story spoilers that are in there? If they are, that would negate my admittedly flimsy theory. I'm not sure why they didn't just give us ones we have unlocked to start with, but it must make sense to someone. My friend and I don't get the same ones either, so I can't even say it was to make it super simple on the devs/code every week by giving everyone the same things.

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Originally Posted by Miss_Sadie

Are they story spoilers that are in there? If they are, that would negate my admittedly flimsy theory. I'm not sure why they didn't just give us ones we have unlocked to start with, but it must make sense to someone. My friend and I don't get the same ones either, so I can't even say it was to make it super simple on the devs/code every week by giving everyone the same things.

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Is this sufficient?
https://i.imgur.com/Ih5q8BV.png

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Originally Posted by TheHyperFusion

Is this sufficient?
https://i.imgur.com/Ih5q8BV.png

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Thank you!

I can see that being a spoiler, sort of. It wouldn't be an obvious one, at least not to me. But any of the extremes could be. I wonder what the criteria used by Square Enix is? Since it doesn't seem to be 'spoiler' potential.

I can't even say that it sticks to your expansion as I think that second one in the second row is an alliance raid from post Endwalker. I could be wrong though, I don't have them memorized. If you haven't hit or just Shadowbringers that is actually impossible for you. Well, so is a lvl 90 dungeon if it pops up but that one I could kind of give a pass just because of the nature of that row.

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Originally Posted by TheHyperFusion

Is this sufficient?
https://i.imgur.com/Ih5q8BV.png

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>"In the event players have not unlocked certain duties, the available objectives will change."

Wow, the most cryptic duty in the entire game doesn't have that applied to it.

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Originally Posted by Astrahime

>"In the event players have not unlocked certain duties, the available objectives will change."

Wow, the most cryptic duty in the entire game doesn't have that applied to it.

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Right? You would think, maybe, I dunno, a char not through Stormblood maybe doesn't have that yet? It kinda damns folks on WT who inadvertently overlevel.

Much like Alliance Raid Roulette, devs are probably thinking at this point that if you've overleveled to the point of making certain content obsolete or irrelevant, you need to be focusing on MSQ. Spending time away from MSQ and overleveling is a player problem more than a game design problem.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Much like Alliance Raid Roulette, devs are probably thinking at this point that if you've overleveled to the point of making certain content obsolete or irrelevant, you need to be focusing on MSQ. Spending time away from MSQ and overleveling is a player problem more than a game design problem.

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Except players can rapidly outlevel MSQ even if they avoid side content. There are too many forms of bonus XP in the game.

A new player may not realize some of them exist so won't know there are ways to avoid some of them. While there can be side content unlocked during ARR that's a higher level than MSQ, that stops being true once the player reaches level 50 so there's no advantage to outleveling MSQ past that point. They're generally not going to think about leveling a second job to absorb excess XP unless a friend or someone in NN (if they join NN) suggests it. And it's natural for them to want to experience some of the side content as they go through MSQ because everything is new to them.

SE can absolutely fix the problem through game design just as game design allows for the player to outlevel MSQ in the first place. Don't allow jobs more than one level over MSQ to earn XP. If someone feels bad about XP "going to waste", it encourages them to level other jobs.

It fixes this Wondrous Tails problem. It would also fix the new Alliance roulette ilvl problem.