6.5 Over leveling Issue

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Date & Time: 10/5/2023 7:30
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World name: Sargatanas
Character name: Sai Yanara
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Class/Level: Samurai/66 Machinist/50
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1. Have a character at the start of Heavensward
2. Have a class level 60 or higher before unlocking any of the Heavensward Alliance Raids (which are minimum ilvl 175-235)
3. Attempt to join duty roulette with level 60 or higher class only to be locked out due to minimum ilvl requirement
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For context, I only have the Crystal Tower Alliance Raids unlocked for this character (minimum ilvl should be 70-90). I just wanted to collect the Allagan Tomestones of Poetics for gear for my other classes, while leveling up my Samurai (I do duty roulettes with my Samurai so I don't over level all my other classes). I did change to a class level 50 to see if it was still locked and it wasn't thankfully. To my understanding the duty roulette seems to work based on minimum ilvl, in addition to the level of the class itself. *REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE ALLIANCE RAID IS UNLOCKED OR NOT.*

I did see a similar report in "Working as intended" however I decided to file another report with more specification and just to make sure my understanding that THIS is how it's supposed to be. If this IS the case, then this means I'm forced to not over level my classes or else I'm going to be locked out of the Alliance Raid roulette while progressing to Endwalker. I understand that this problem could be resolved by progressing the story and/or buying gear that matches the ilvl, however, I feel like it's ridiculous that I have to meet the minimum ilvl for an alliance raid that I don't even have access to yet just to do the duty roulette.
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This isn't a bug. The game is working completely as intended.
This is something called a Skill Issue.

Imo this is still too lenient, the scaling restrictions should be applied to Normal Raids and Level 50/60/70/80 as well.

This feature was added in the last patch to prevent people from unequipping all their gear to force themselves to get a lower level alliance raid. People believed this caused them to get Crystal Tower too often. Most likely this would be the most common one regardless due to be the lowest level, but a lot of people made this complaint so SE responded to it.

I can see why they'd want to apply the ilevel restriction even if you don't have the raids unlocked (to prevent people from just not unlocking the raids so they can keep getting Crystal Tower) but surely they could do a check of whether or not you're actually able to unlock them.

If a job is overleveled you don't need to do the roulette with it. Just play the game like normal. If you want tomes for lower jobs then play those jobs that need exp anyway, it's not complicated.

This isn't an issue as gear at that iLvl is available to you to purchase either through the various vendors in the relevant expansion or the marketboard.

Working as intended. I'm glad we got this, honestly.

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Originally Posted by Remarus

This isn't an issue as gear at that iLvl is available to you to purchase either through the various vendors in the relevant expansion or the marketboard.

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The point being made is that if they overleveled to 60, then the requirement to do the roulette is suddenly higher than the gear they have access to from tomestones.

The workarounds are either to buy the highest item level gear for your level from the market board, or to queue as a different job that is lower level, or to just avoid the roulette while still doing the MSQ.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

The point being made is that if they overleveled to 60, then the requirement to do the roulette is suddenly higher than the gear they have access to from tomestones.

The workarounds are either to buy the highest item level gear for your level from the market board, or to queue as a different job that is lower level, or to just avoid the roulette while still doing the MSQ.

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When a new dungeon comes out, Expert roulette automatically locks. If new content comes out as part of a required queue (such as mentor) you lose that queue till you complete the items. Requiring a player to meet the next ilvl tier kinda sucks if you don't have tomes/tome vendor, but they should be keeping up with gear anyway.