An Ending to Mark a New Beginning (spoilers)

Why did Papalymo say "Hells take me for giving you that mask"? Was he referring Yda? I don't mind spoilers, I just can't stand not understanding lol

Yes. He's referring to Yda's mask, which she's been using to hide the fact that she's not really Yda, she's Yda's sister. I assume you'd know this by now though, because this is only a mystery for maybe fifteen minutes of MSQ playtime; I don't know your schedule, but there's a good chance you've made time for that in the two+ hours since posting.

This is why I suggested you just keep playing the game in another thread: you're asking questions that are explained very clearly within the game itself, not long after the point where you would've been to ask them in the first place. If you've got a question like this because of a specific line that was only just said, more often than not the game will very directly answer you in pretty short order.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

Yes. He's referring to Yda's mask, which she's been using to hide the fact that she's not really Yda, she's Yda's sister. I assume you'd know this by now though, because this is only a mystery for maybe fifteen minutes of MSQ playtime; I don't know your schedule, but there's a good chance you've made time for that in the two+ hours since posting.

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Additionally it's the most underwhelming mystery ever. "Surprise, I'm not who I said I was, although you may have never met the other person I was pretending to be and everyone else had worked it out anyway. Now I get a costume change but that's about it."

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Additionally it's the most underwhelming mystery ever. "Surprise, I'm not who I said I was, although you may have never met the other person I was pretending to be and everyone else had worked it out anyway. Now I get a costume change but that's about it."

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It sets up the whole "stop living in my sister's shadow(and father's) shadow to be my own person tropes. I wouldn't say it's underwhelming.

I'm sorry, I've been playing for like 45 minutes since that scene, I must've missed it. I'm studying for an important exam in this period so my attention spam it's kinda low. Do you remember where they said that she was not really Yda?

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Originally Posted by BoxHako

I'm sorry, I've been playing for like 45 minutes since that scene, I must've missed it. I'm studying for an important exam in this period so my attention spam it's kinda low. Do you remember where they said that she was not really Yda?

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You have not missed anything. It likely hasn't actually been said, yet. Palpalymo's line was foreshadowing, to make you question what he meant and want to find out the answer by continuing the story. There's a lot of foreshadowing comments in this game; its a favored tool of the writing team.

Yda's identity ends up being an obvious plot point that is very in your face and constant, once you are told. You'll see it eventually.

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Originally Posted by thegreatonemal

It sets up the whole "stop living in my sister's shadow(and father's) shadow to be my own person tropes. I wouldn't say it's underwhelming.

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It also sets her up to become something that's not a joke character, which she needs to be for Stormblood. Is this the only way they could've done that? No, absolutely not, but I don't really have problems with it.

Yda couldn't have possibly carried the amount of Stormblood she needed to in the form she was in ARR.

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Originally Posted by BoxHako

I'm sorry, I've been playing for like 45 minutes since that scene, I must've missed it. I'm studying for an important exam in this period so my attention spam it's kinda low. Do you remember where they said that she was not really Yda?

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ANd yeah, this is not a particularly subtle moment in the story; ten minutes was an exaggeration borne of not having played this recently, but I've checked, and it's four quests afterwards. I thought it was one quest afterwards, but that's largely because the events of 3.55 get a bit muddled when you're looking back at the story beats in retrospect.

The events of 3.5 and 3.55 were a few weeks apart when you played them live, so it wasn't "just 15 minutes" later. An issue with jumping into this story-focused game so much after the fact is that the pacing feels very weird; the time gaps between patches that allowed for contemplation and research just don't exist, and you end up with this very awkward pacing.

Anyway, the reveal in question is that Yda is actually her younger sister Lyse who has spent the last few years impersonating her as a very maladaptive way of coping with her grief... and all of the Scions already knew except for the PC, who they didn't tell for no clear reason (it wasn't ever pertinent, they didn't want to drive a wedge between anyone, whatever have you). The real Yda has been dead since before the Calamity, and Papalymo feels guilty for having given Lyse her late sister's mask (which she uses to obscure her face / eyes and thus identity) because she's not living her own life as a result. The scene where she does the reveal is on top of the lookout platform in the Black Shroud... I forget it's exact name.

From a Doylist perspective I'm pretty sure they just didn't know what to do with either Yda or Papalymo, so they killed the latter off one patch after he came back into the narrative and the former half a patch after that, figuratively speaking.