My desired changes for Red Mage in patch 7.0

Red Mage is currently in a weird spot where it's only desirable to have one in the party if multi-res is needed. It does not deal much more damage than Summoner, even though it's more difficult to execute. The job has great identity yes, but the rotation almost doesn't change at all since lvl 70. Reprise needs a rework (I don't know why they changed from ranged to melee, now it's useless). These would be my ideal changes:

- Executing Verraise increases the MP cost by 2400 for 60 seconds, up to 9600.

- Reprise and Enchanted Reprise become AoE attacks just like Moulinet and Enchanted Moulinet and combos with them. It costs 10 Mana and grants a Mana Stack when used in a combo. This will allow you to use a full combo out of an AoE combo immediatly after Manafication.

- Scatter II, or Verfire II and Verstone II. AoE procs, basically.

- Balance Gauge extended. Now, besides the three Mana Stacks, you can also get a White Mana Stack and a Black Mana Stack. Executing Verholy will grant you a White Mana Stack while executing Verflare will grant you a Black Mana Stack. Having both will allow you to use Verultima. This spell consumes both Black and White Mana Stacks and deals more damage than Verflare and Verholy, granting you Black and White Mana as well. The idea is to extend the Red Mage combo in two phases: the Verholy phase and the Verflare phase, and then finishing with Verultima, making it feel like a super long combo.

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Originally Posted by Vandso

Red Mage is currently in a weird spot where it's only desirable to have one in the party if multi-res is needed. It does not deal much more damage than Summoner...

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Rdm currently doesn't deal more damage than smn both in rdps (dead last) and adps (only above brd and dnc).

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Originally Posted by Vandso

(I don't know why they changed from ranged to melee, now it's useless)

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Enchanted reprise is ranged. Agree tho, it's almost as bad as scathe.

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Originally Posted by Vandso

Executing Verraise increases the MP cost by 2400 for 60 seconds, up to 9600.

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Just get rid of dual-cast raise. It's already widely unnecessary in normal content and countered in high-end with body checks.

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Originally Posted by Vandso

Now, besides the three Mana Stacks, you can also get a White Mana Stack and a Black Mana Stack. Executing Verholy will grant you a White Mana Stack while executing Verflare will grant you a Black Mana Stack. Having both will allow you to use Verultima.

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So rdm monk? I'd be down for that.

My desired change is to make the next relic hat work on Viera and Hrothgar. I don't wear a lot of hats, but red mage feels naked without a cool hat.

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Originally Posted by keeper_of_moon

Enchanted reprise is ranged.

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Is it? Why does the description say otherwise then?

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Originally Posted by keeper_of_moon

So rdm monk? I'd be down for that.

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My initial idea was to make Verholy increase the damage of Verflare and vice-versa, but I thought this way would be cooler.

Normal (un-enchanted) reprise is melee. Enchanted is ranged. No idea why they decided to do it that way other than style-zation? Make sure you look at the tooltip for 'enchanted reprise', not just 'reprise'.

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Originally Posted by keeper_of_moon

Normal (un-enchanted) reprise is melee. Enchanted is ranged. No idea why they decided to do it that way other than style-zation? Make sure you look at the tooltip for 'enchanted reprise', not just 'reprise'.

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I did. It doesn't say "ranged". It says 25y tho. Weird.

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Originally Posted by Vandso

It doesn't say "ranged".

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It's a weaponskill but it deals magic damage, hence 'Deals unaspected damage' which is also used by all the other rdm spells. I'd try not to think about it too hard. The 25 yalm range is the only thing that matters in this case.

I don't think any of the phys ranged attacks say 'ranged' for that matter either.

A melee combo instead of just Moulinet x3 would mess up my very comfortable controller layout.

Ver Raise needs to not interrupt Melee Combo. The number of times someone dies while I'm doing my combo and it feels weird making people wait for a quick res.
RDM needs more mobility tools in general.

Come 7.0 they either need to remove Verraise and Resurrection completely or give one to Black Mage regardless of it not fitting thematically. They just can't seem to balance around it whatsoever, which puts the Casters as a whole in a very awkward position. If it weren't for Black Mage being somewhat intimating to play, you'd never have a reason to touch Summoner or Red Mage. The DPS difference is staggering. Which would be fine... if it didn't make picking Black Mage a clear best choice.

I say both Raises need to go because Resurrection was already nearly deleted this expansion if not for a last minute decision to keep up. It seems a foregone conclusion they'll remove it next expansion which will put Red Mage in an even worse spot if they insist on taxing it, especially if Summoner remains this easy to play.