Blue Mage lvl 60 quest WTF?

So got to lvl 70 Blue Mage and went back and started doing a bunch of the BLU job quests (i think i was at like lvl 53). TL;DR I get up to the lvl 60 quest where you must complete "To catch a Siegfried" and I am basically about to just wash my hands of the job all together. I have now tried 4-5 times to complete the stupid carnival level/event/round to no avail. I get through act 1 basically with no problem. Act two loves to give me issue when I am standing an inch too far left/right and get hit by one of the stupid ice bombs. One time so far I have reached act 3 and promptly got nuked down by like 3 different attacks going off all at once. What makes this whole thing even worse is that EVERY time I want to make an attempt....I have to start at Act 1.

I get that Blue Mage is a "limited job" but I never realized that apparently equates to "you basically have to beat your head against a wall to make progress at times" in comparison to ANY of the other jobs in the game. No other job (not DoW, DoM, DoH, or DoL) has anywhere near as painful of a "level bracket" (i cant think of a better way to describe like the whole 10, 20, 30, etc "big quest" most of the times) job quest as this. Plus at this point if you wind up struggling at it, I do believe the game goes "hey you want to drop the difficulty down?" and yet nope....no such option for Blue Mage. Hells, not even any sort of check point system so if I get to well, Act 3 and get stomped 5 seconds in....I can just skip the first two acts and work on Act 3. Nope...I get to go back to square 1 and potentially goof on one of the earlier acts and continue to waste even more of my time. All this just to get a face mask which is basically the same as a mask thats already in the game (and this mask is only usable by BLU) and FINALLY able to proceed to 60+ BLU quests.

Frankly, if this is what lvl 60 quest is requiring, I am kind of horrified as to what the travesty that level 70 BLU quest is going to be or....*shrudder* the upcoming level 80 BLU quest. Somehow we, the WoL, the one who has faced countless primals, gods, and other "supposedly undefeatable beings" still get just roflstomped in a carnival time after time after time. I truly think this needs a major fix/tweak asap.

Are you using:
Exuvation to remove the bind cast in Act 1 & 3?
Physical spells while Magic Drain is up?
Ice, Wind, and Fire spells, combined with Bristle, to quickly kill the clones in act 3?
Either DPS or Healer Aetheric Mimicry? (dps to help with the clones, or healer for easy recovery if you do happen to get hit)
Surecast to avoid the knockback in Act 3?

Oh, and are you wearing iLvl 270+ gear?

well i reviewed the guide video for this mission and found it very helpful on how to beat it also your need to buy the ilv400 augmented gear to help you out.ps you also need to beat mission 25 for storyline of blue mage pps here is a link to the video guide https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervie...8CA8C5A3A99A91

Yes, Yes, Healer Mimicry is up, I have used surecast during Act 2. Out of all the attempts I've done so far I have reached Act 3 one time and got blasted by im guessing the knockback which i couldnt even tell was coming cause there was so much going on on screen, and then promptly blasted by 3 different aoes. I am currently lvl 70 wearing full augmented Scavean.

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Originally Posted by george357

well i reviewed the guide video for this mission and found it very helpful on how to beat it also your need to buy the ilv400 augmented gear to help you out.ps you also need to beat mission 25 for storyline of blue mage pps here is a link to the video guide https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervie...8CA8C5A3A99A91

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Yep, im lvl 70 in full augmented scavean gear, mission 25 i beat already (i think that was for lvl 50 blue mage quest?). I know the like strat for it, the problem is actually pulling it off and the fact that if you get stomped in Act 3 you get to do the ENTIRE fight all over from the start without any sort of option to decrease difficulty or anything unlike every other job quest in the game (at least for DoW/DoM) i believe.

Thing is, there's an achievement tied to each level cap Carnival, part of which involves taking no damage at all. So. Decreasing difficulty would not only negate that accomplishment, but also may be seen as less necessary, given that the fight is literally designed in such a way that all damage is avoidable.

It's a scripted dance. All about learning when it's safe to attack and when you need to move, where to be, how to react, etc. If you're taking a lot of damage, you need to learn why you're taking that damage and to correct your mistakes. You're not going to brute force your way through, so take your time and play it safe.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Thing is, there's an achievement tied to each level cap Carnival, part of which involves taking no damage at all. So. Decreasing difficulty would not only negate that accomplishment, but also may be seen as less necessary, given that the fight is literally designed in such a way that all damage is avoidable.

It's a scripted dance. All about learning when it's safe to attack and when you need to move, where to be, how to react, etc. If you're taking a lot of damage, you need to learn why you're taking that damage and to correct your mistakes. You're not going to brute force your way through, so take your time and play it safe.

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Can simply make it that utilizing the "easy option" would flag the attempt as not being able to obtain the achievement. Just like beating a game on [insert difficulty] and you lower the difficulty you can no longer get the achievement for beating on that harder difficulty without a fresh play through.

Learning it would be fine IF you could have a check point or something. Now im working on the lvl 70 fight (after finally beating Siegfried after like 30 attempts) and it takes so freaking long to beat the guy in Act 1 to then just get stomped in Act 2 and then have to respend all that time beating him in Act 1 again. Again, achievement for taking no damage....just set it so said achievement requires "normal difficulty and no damage or restarts" (this would negate anyone who uses "easy" option or the checkpoint (as using checkpoint would also naturally mean damage happened and thus disqualify for the achievement). I really dont think i have the interest in spending hours attempting to beat this guy just to complete the job quest and get another cane. Course I suppose that also means I wont be able to do any of the upcoming 70-80 BLU content because I cant beat this guy in the Carnival. Can you imagine if regular job missions were this difficult and people were faced with being unable to progress in their job story simply because they cant master this one specific intentionally challenging fight?

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Originally Posted by Skitz470

Can you imagine if regular job missions were this difficult and people were faced with being unable to progress in their job story simply because they cant master this one specific intentionally challenging fight?

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Yes, because "easy mode" is a rather new addition. SAM had a rather brutal fight rather early on in their job quests. SMN also commonly got stomped in one or two fights, made worse at the time by the ever-changing tool kit.

Much like BLU, it was a process of learning why you failed and adjusting your response accordingly.

If a player was playing BLU just for gaining spells or group content, they probably are missing about 90% of what BLU is about. I was frustrated like the OP on that level 60 fight. "4-5 times?" That's it? Some players are probably great at understanding mechanics after 1-2 wipes. It probably took me 20 or so to clear it. I also didn't have the full spell set - just the ones that were completely necessary.

I thought BLU was a myth they tell children to frighten them away from shit jobs. Never seen anyone actually admit to trying to play it. Now I'm confused...