What happened in the last week to make people so vocally against the current state?

Let me start off by saying that I agree with every criticism I've read. I run one of the largest and most active FCs on Cactuar (one of the largest servers), but I've felt extremely unmotivated to log in and play recently to the point that it's making me feel upset and fearful that I may be becoming a bad FC leader. I've been really hopeful that 6.4 will really light a fire under me to play like I did since open beta.

But I logged onto the forums today to post about pvp exp balance and I'm taken back by how many posts on here are vocally against the current state of the game. I'm used to seeing the official forums be mostly positive.

Like I said, I AGREE with all the criticisms, but one thing I noticed is that all these long posts about the current state of the game seem to have come in the last week--so I'm wondering, why? It doesn't seem like this could just be some coincidence. Did something happen in the last week that ignited all of this?

Free login campaign?

Yoshi did interview where he said that relic will have no major changes, that started it all.

Q: Manderville Weapon has progressed in the form of consuming Allagan tomestones and exchanging necessary items in both stages so far, but will patch 6.45 follow the same flow? Or will it be a new process?

Yoshi: I don't really want to say "This is what needs to be collected" before the implementation, so let me refrain from talking about it (laughs). However, in terms of the flow, the intention this time is for players to be able to upgrade (the weapon) while playing various contents at the same time, so please be assured that there will be no major changes.

https://dengekionline.com/articles/183539/

The free login campaign has resulted in a tonne of people returning, but outside of this, the announcement of the 6.45 relic, and the implication that it will more than likely be more tomes

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Originally Posted by OvernightSiren

seem to have come in the last week

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Has been for months now since the beginning of this year lol

In the last week?

Like others said, probably the free login campaign. However, I also think the Mendacity tomestone event triggered it because the main way to get the mendacity tomestones is to do Nier and MSQ roulette. The absolutely last thing someone should do is push a community who regards doing less castrum and praetorium a good thing into doing more castrum and praetorium.

The other aspect to it is that this entire content push feels a bit too safe or trying things that probably should have been avoided.

Island Sanctuary is basically Warlords of Draenor phone mini-game that is made more tedious by having to log in and go to the island. It can be automated fully to minimize interaction, but when that system is added on top of checking retainers, doing gold saucer dailies, checking retainers, keeping grand company members out on the daily missions, doing whatever you need to do for rep grind, doing daily roulette... it turns into a daily laundry list of tasks that can easily take half an hour to an hour of someones limited playtime.

The new deep dungeon is basically a third PoTD, but the story was stronger in the first one thanks to the setup and long term players are much less likely interested in doing them as they have almost all jobs leveled to 90. Not to mention the competency curve at end game discourages taking time out to go level other jobs.

I'm not going to claim I have any idea what they need to do to make the game better, but I know that more grind content is not going to fix it. Better to let people hit an end point and let them take a break. It's okay to not have people log in every day.

I think most are happy. The forums are a severe minority and the Discord isn't official and it's run by a lot of bad people.

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

I think most are happy. The forums are a severe minority and the Discord isn't official and it's run by a lot of bad people.

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What Discord? I'm probably going to regret even asking this, but unrelenting boredom can lead to some pretty bad decisions.

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Originally Posted by OvernightSiren

Let me start off by saying that I agree with every criticism I've read. I run one of the largest and most active FCs on Cactuar (one of the largest servers), but I've felt extremely unmotivated to log in and play recently to the point that it's making me feel upset and fearful that I may be becoming a bad FC leader. I've been really hopeful that 6.4 will really light a fire under me to play like I did since open beta.

But I logged onto the forums today to post about pvp exp balance and I'm taken back by how many posts on here are vocally against the current state of the game. I'm used to seeing the official forums be mostly positive.

Like I said, I AGREE with all the criticisms, but one thing I noticed is that all these long posts about the current state of the game seem to have come in the last week--so I'm wondering, why? It doesn't seem like this could just be some coincidence. Did something happen in the last week that ignited all of this?

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Personally speaking I have always felt the forum do swing more in the negative direction, more so now then in 2015 sure, but its kinda something I see in every MMO official forum. That said I agree there has been an upkeep of more negative voices, and also agree with what others have said about free login and Yoshi’s comments likely being the cause. The latter in particular seems to have really upset some hoping for a walkback, apology or mix up with how Endwalker is handling relics.