Support abilities should affect non-alliance members as well.

A large part of what disturbs job balance in Frontline and Rival Wings unfair is that AoE attacks can hit any number of enemies but AoE support abilities, such as Magick Barrier or AST cards or Cure III will only affect party members.

Instead of stripping the fun out of the mode by introducing AoE caps, why not lift up some of the struggling jobs by removing this restriction? It would certainly help Bard, Red Mage and Sage, which are otherwise pretty useless.

Brd and sge are anything but useless. Brd is amazing at setting up kills, their silence is one of the best tools outside unpurifyable CC to shut people down, and they can maintain an almost 100% uptime on a 10%dmg buff for 8 people.

Sge actually deals good damage, and their LB can do wonders to shut down LB cheese stacking, albeit only for your party. If your group makes use of the circle it can really turn things around.

Only one I agree with for FL here is rdm, their kit just isn't good for it when they get caster DR.

I don't think having all buffs be raidwide would work out at all.
Imagine if LBing dragoons always had a high chance of having all the buffs in the game, numbers would get even more ridiculous.
Asts could chain LBs and have like a solid minute of massive damage buffs.
Same with sch shields. You'd be looking at between 30-60%dmg buff on the entire raid almost constantly.

The only thing I wanna see in this regard is allowing single target skills like blm mobility tool, pld guard etc to target people in other groups.

You could argue that this should be in PvE Alliance Raids as well. Especially core tools like Shirk, Tank Barriers and so on.

But in terms of PVP I don't think it be that much of a problem if you could use supportive abilities on players outside of your immediate party.

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Originally Posted by Kansene

I don't think having all buffs be raidwide would work out at all.
Imagine if LBing dragoons always had a high chance of having all the buffs in the game, numbers would get even more ridiculous.
Asts could chain LBs and have like a solid minute of massive damage buffs.
Same with sch shields. You'd be looking at between 30-60%dmg buff on the entire raid almost constantly.

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No, given the crop of players in FL, that would not be reliable at all, but that does sound rewarding and fun and cool for those that could pull it off!

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Originally Posted by AtomicBomb

No, given the crop of players in FL, that would not be reliable at all, but that does sound rewarding and fun and cool for those that could pull it off!

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I'm tempted to say I disagree with the reliability comment, but I've seen how people play FL.

That said, it'd still be a hard no from me personally. FLs are already being cheesed hard, and I'd rather see less potential for it than more.

Sage LB exists

Tbh GW2 had or has a system like this. The mage dropped a fire field on the ground, the archer shot arrows over it, and the arrows were burning and applied additional damage over time on the target. In open world PvP, the largescale World vs World vs World maps, you had to be really coordinated to pull these field combos off at the right time.
FFXIV doesnt have any synergy between different parties. They like to keep it simple and casual and that is why PvP can't be too complex. You would get people complaining that premade groups of 4 are too strong.