Are they going through the Nethergate every time, or do they have their own secret straight to Sharlayan teleporter hidden away in the burrow somewhere?
How do the loporrits get to and from Hydaelyn?
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03-13-2023, 12:39 PMBrightamethystHow do the loporrits get to and from Hydaelyn?
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03-13-2023, 03:35 PMLurinaI don't think they talk to her. I mean, their entire impression of human biology was 12,000 years out of date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightamethyst
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03-13-2023, 03:41 PMRyuDragnier
I think they meant to say Etheirys, Lurina.
To answer the question, it's very likely they only use the Nethergate to first get down to the surface, and then do what everybody else does...attune to Aetherytes. They only need the Nethergate for the original transfer down, but the second they attune to any Aetheryte, they no longer need it to go to and from Etheirys. -
03-13-2023, 04:03 PMLurinaOh! Obviously. Stupid of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
Thinking about it, it does feel a little weird how casual transport across the entire world in Endwalker feels at times - Aetherytes aside, in the past it's always felt like something most characters can't do, with there being a tangible sense off distance in the way some scenarios play out. That's true even early on with all the fuss about the difficulty of the Garlean expedition. So the way that Sharlayans and the rabbits and casually hopping between Garlemald and an island half way across the continent starts to take on a bit of a later-GoT-seasons vibe in the back half of the expac and some of the post-release content. -
03-13-2023, 04:32 PMBrightamethystHa ha, yeah. The writers made it super weird by introducing the term Etheiris and then ignoring it. Players are running around using a name almost no one on the planet Hydaelyn has ever even heard of. Imagine if you leaned what some long forgotten ancient civilization used to call Earth. If you started using it in conversation you wouldn't technically be wrong, but you'd sound like a crazy weirdo and no one would understand what you were talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
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03-13-2023, 05:45 PMIscah
We are specifically told/shown that the Loporrits first made their way down to the planet via the Nethergate, but after that there's no reason why they can't just be using aetherytes like everyone else. They've got one at home and they just need to attune to the one in Sharlayan.
I don't think most of the planet even knows to call it "Hydaelyn". It seems to be a Sharlayan thing, likely since they got in contact with the entity and believed her to be the soul of the planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightamethyst
The characters have all quite quickly switched over to using Etheirys amongst themselves, and it's far more convenient to not have to clarify "which Hydaelyn" they're talking about. -
03-13-2023, 05:52 PMClereticActually, I find they use Etheirys almost too consistently. After the word is introduced in-universe it's used pretty much exclusively by everyone in the story, even if that really doesn't make any sense as far as actual people go, there WOULD be a much slower adoption. Not doing that is ultimately kinda necessary for Endwalker's story just to avoid confusion, though; when both Hydaelyn the figure and Hydaelyn the planet are gonna have presence in the same story, we need a way to differentiate in conversation. In comparison: try to have a conversation about Eureka without using any qualifiers about which of the three you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightamethyst
Honestly I think the more egregious example is actually dynamis. That phenomena literally already had a functional name and theory around it in the modern world, we didn't need another one, but for some reason everyone completely drops using 'akasa' even in the story once the term 'dynamis' is introduced. Which honestly I'd probably put more to Sharlayan being a bit nationalist; they'd prefer to use the term allegedly used by a barely-evidenced extinct civilization than admit that somewhere like Thavnair figured something out before they did.
On the subject of the OP's question... I think the question here relies on one of the dumbest possible pieces of evidence: Is Namingway canon? The description of the Namingway minion perfectly describes him being from the loporrits, probably by complete chance (since it's very unlikely they had that part of the storyline's endgame figured out during Heavensward). If that minion's non-canon then there's not really a mystery anyway, but if they are then it requires there to be some way for the Loporrits to get to the planet from the moon outside of the Nethergate, albeit an obscure one. -
03-14-2023, 12:45 AMthegreatonemalWe hang around people that know the truth is why. Most other people refer to the planet as "The star."Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleretic
You are right about dynamis though, there should at least be some interchanging. -
03-14-2023, 01:36 AMWhiteArchmageThat is, in fact, the explanation provided in-game Unending Codex (with "Echo-users" instead of "Sharlayans", though Sharlayan digging into the Aetherial Sea likely didn't help):Quote:
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The chosen few also spoke of being summoned to the heart of the star where, according to their testaments, awaited a pure and towering crystal. It is likely that said testaments gave rise to the appelation "Mothercrystal," as well as the usage of the word "Hydaelin" to refer to the star itself, though the precise point at which these terms became commonplace remains unknown.