CC by design increases toxicity in the player base

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02-26-2023, 12:01 AM
Malthir

CC by design increases toxicity in the player base

The way CC is designed increases player toxicity for the following reason IMO.

1. PVP cosmetic rewards require >10x grind to get. I believe this is because they made the cosmetic uniform for all classes were as before it would take you about 4 hours of pvp to get your full non ranked set per class. The idea was interesting however you're exploiting fomo of players to force the grind.

2. Players cannot queue with friends meaning you're stuck with randoms of variable skill. Granted in the hayday of frontlines you generally only played with a couple of friends so most people were random. However this stacks onto the previous point that the grind is now longer so more matches with zero ability to joing with friends mean more and more frustration for players

3. No clear comms, I understand that you don't want people to flame one another however removing clear comms make everything more frustrating not less. It would have been better to simplify the report process so we can right click and report on player names in the chat if they flame than remove the ability to talk.

I know there are balance issues in PVP but that's always going to exist in PVP in every game, however the 3 points above are exclusive to the design of CC and the new milestone system, they're bad design choices that increase rage amongst players.
02-26-2023, 02:07 AM
Towa-Musa

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Originally Posted by Malthir

The way CC is designed increases player toxicity for the following reason IMO.

1. PVP cosmetic rewards require >10x grind to get. I believe this is because they made the cosmetic uniform for all classes were as before it would take you about 4 hours of pvp to get your full non ranked set per class. The idea was interesting however you're exploiting fomo of players to force the grind.

2. Players cannot queue with friends meaning you're stuck with randoms of variable skill. Granted in the hayday of frontlines you generally only played with a couple of friends so most people were random. However this stacks onto the previous point that the grind is now longer so more matches with zero ability to joing with friends mean more and more frustration for players

3. No clear comms, I understand that you don't want people to flame one another however removing clear comms make everything more frustrating not less. It would have been better to simplify the report process so we can right click and report on player names in the chat if they flame than remove the ability to talk.

I know there are balance issues in PVP but that's always going to exist in PVP in every game, however the 3 points above are exclusive to the design of CC and the new milestone system, they're bad design choices that increase rage amongst players.

i just turn my brain off and go in, don't care about the rank just go in to grind out the pass. did that with an alt and came out with plat lol
02-26-2023, 06:05 AM
RyanCousland

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Originally Posted by Malthir

The way CC is designed increases player toxicity for the following reason IMO.

1. PVP cosmetic rewards require >10x grind to get. I believe this is because they made the cosmetic uniform for all classes were as before it would take you about 4 hours of pvp to get your full non ranked set per class. The idea was interesting however you're exploiting fomo of players to force the grind.

2. Players cannot queue with friends meaning you're stuck with randoms of variable skill. Granted in the hayday of frontlines you generally only played with a couple of friends so most people were random. However this stacks onto the previous point that the grind is now longer so more matches with zero ability to joing with friends mean more and more frustration for players

3. No clear comms, I understand that you don't want people to flame one another however removing clear comms make everything more frustrating not less. It would have been better to simplify the report process so we can right click and report on player names in the chat if they flame than remove the ability to talk.

I know there are balance issues in PVP but that's always going to exist in PVP in every game, however the 3 points above are exclusive to the design of CC and the new milestone system, they're bad design choices that increase rage amongst players.

i'll agree the communication issue doesnt help because for some goddamn reason they decided to limit our options from previous expansion however the rewards arent really an issue in terms of "toxicity" if you look at all the time sensitive reward acquisition rates their low based on interest rather than the difficulty take last season's mount for example the flyga(red dragon) it has the lowest as compared to the garo mounts or even the gc mounts, your given a lengthy amount of time to complete and get your rewards if your casual, if your an actual pvp player you'll have the pass done within a week that being said i do think a previous rewards shop would be nice as a means to spend trophy crystals on