A small Feedback to consider for Summoner to be more interactive Thank you!!!

Hi I am a big fan for this class, and job.
I really enjoy playing it since it is one of the most welcoming classes to play the game.
Also it is a class that allow you to level up two jobs at the same time which is very convenient to get familiar with the game for 1 dps, and 1 healer if you wish to improve your experience with all type of classes on the game.

I loved the previous summoner which was a very good on doing long spell combos for damage, and offered good utility to increase DOTs. I love the changes made to make it more a summoner class, but miss some abilities, and maybe to have more summonings. I miss for carbuncle to have actions to be more present on the summoner experience.

For that, my feedback on this is the following:
I think you should allow for carbuncle to have an auto-attack that works as a support attack whenever you cast ruin for a single target or cast a aoe support damage whenever you cast an aoe spell to hit multiple targets, that will make it more useful than just be a pet at your side. I love the fact, that carbuncle is your catalyst to summon other egis, I think that was a brilliant idea. But we can also help carbuncle to be the one who cast DOTS instead of us, so it can cast them anytime we hit a single target or Multiple targets. with that it will be a very useful improvement for it. And of course, we control manually whenever carbuncle cast the dots.

Also I wish to bring into this feedback that maybe adding ramuh shiva, and leviathan should be the time to do so as egis, to make it more dynamic and maybe Odin as a finisher as bahamut, and phoenix is so summoner can have a improve rotation to balance with its damage, and of course make it one of the best classes.

And please allow for summoner to have a healing ability that works at least as red mage to have a bit of healing too, thank you!!

I love summoner I think it is one of the main jobs that define the franchise for its importance, and job maybe this feedback can provide some ideas.

I hope people can make this feedback to be reach to the devs so they can see it

Thank you!!

nah we have phoenix for the bit of healing. physick should be removed from summoner completely.

carbuncle does not need more to do. pet code is jank at the best of times and can still ghost actions if you happen to mis-time them.

more different summons? maybe perhaps there can be a second different set after you go thru the first cycle, but really it would just be visual flavor only.

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Originally Posted by Zackmag1993

And please allow for summoner to have a healing ability that works at least as red mage to have a bit of healing too, thank you!!

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Radiant Aegis is ridiculously strong for how low of a CD it has and it has 2 charges.

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Originally Posted by Zackmag1993

I think you should allow for carbuncle to have an auto-attack

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I don't really see the point of this. Other casters don't do autos.

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But we can also help carbuncle to be the one who cast DOTS instead of us

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The only dot I can think of on a Summoner is Garuda's wind puddle, which is a type of dot if the enemy is standing in it.

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I wish to bring into this feedback that maybe adding ramuh shiva, and leviathan should be the time to do so as egis, to make it more dynamic and maybe Odin as a finisher as bahamut, and phoenix is so summoner can have a improve rotation to balance with its damage, and of course make it one of the best classes.

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I agree with you, but I know SE and they are thinking 10 years ahead of us. They are obviously planning summons like Ramuh, Shiva and others, but they will gradually be given to us every 2 years for the next 10 years. They could give us it all at once, but they are a company and they can either give us a slice of the cake or the whole cake. Only giving us a slice keeps us wanting more and makes us excited for the next slice in the next expansion.

The previous summoner design couldn't have managed this, but the new one definitely can. All they have to do is cycle through more than just Bahamut, Phoenix and the others.

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And please allow for summoner to have a healing ability that works at least as red mage to have a bit of healing too, thank you!!

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Phoenix is extremely good. It just heals the party and the mitigation is good too.

It's been discussed quite a bit in the DPS section. We'll have to wait and see what happens in 7.0

The heal can go. Maybe they could convert it to a barrier cast.

Carb is traditionally meant for support, but the main reason it doesn't attack is because pet autos were one of those issues with the previous SMN build.

Some new summons would be nice, just for visual flavor. I wouldn't want to lose something like the gap closer in the second round.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

It's been discussed quite a bit in the DPS section. We'll have to wait and see what happens in 7.0

The heal can go. Maybe they could convert it to a barrier cast.

Carb is traditionally meant for support, but the main reason it doesn't attack is because pet autos were one of those issues with the previous SMN build.

Some new summons would be nice, just for visual flavor. I wouldn't want to lose something like the gap closer in the second round.

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Man I'd love just flavor reskins of the egis/summons. Make them side quests for the job, and make it so they're literally just reskins of current summons. So like, Leviathan could replace Garuda (has a watery AoE instead of a windy AoE), for example. No change in mechanics whatsoever, just visual differences.

Carb should go, it's useless now and Pet AI is too dumb to have it do something meaningful.

Heals and Ress should be removed from Casters so they can finally pump more DPS without tax.

They will expand the kit one way or another in 7.0 , I'd like to see rework of Aetherflow system or at least change it thematically to Summon stuff with upgrades. Also where Demi-Alexander at?

I know they're clinging to Carbuncle for the sake of design consistency and all that... but it should honestly really just be dropped.

Pet AI is not the tea and Carbuncle's two only purposes in life are to give us a shield that we can very well give to ourselves at any time + be sacrificial fodder for better summons. I know Square would need to redesign a lot of renders and artwork. Potentially also having to redesign the initial Arcanist quests. But this is a sacrifice worth making.

Cancel Carbuncle 2023

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

I know they're clinging to Carbuncle for the sake of design consistency and all that... but it should honestly really just be dropped.

Pet AI is not the tea and Carbuncle's two only purposes in life are to give us a shield that we can very well give to ourselves at any time + be sacrificial fodder for better summons. I know Square would need to redesign a lot of renders and artwork. Potentially also having to redesign the initial Arcanist quests. But this is a sacrifice worth making.

Cancel Carbuncle 2023

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You do know theyre not going to just get rid of carbuncles. Theyre too popular

If they're not going to get rid of Carbuncles, then at least let me use the Carbuncle gauge from level ~50 SMN please. It looks better than the Dreadwyrm gauge, fight me.