Suggestion: Use Door/Device Automatically if Key is in Possession (Dungeons)

I would like to start a discussion and hopefully get SE on board about this.

As many might know, when in a dungeon you may need to find a key or other item used to make a door or device work. These keys or devices show as steps in your Duty Information about the dungeon:

https://i.imgur.com/dU7IEG8.png

Now, when one approaches the door or device that needs the key or item, you then R-Click on the door/device which then gives a pop up if you wish to use the key/item on it:

https://i.imgur.com/fNPrQFe.png

This in turn Interacts with the door or device and uses it.

I propose that when anyone in a dungeon has the needed key or item for a door or device, it uses it instantly, and remove the pop-up that appears. It is an unnecessary step, as there is always the required amount of keys in a dungeon to open all doors, and you will always find the item needed to use a device. I am uncertain if this is in regards to just ARR dungeons, but they've done some revamps of some, so why not add this?

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Title: Use Door/Device Automatically if Key is in Possession (Dungeons)

Please change it so that when anyone in a dungeon has the needed key or item for a door or device, it uses it instantly, and removes the pop-up that appears. It is an unnecessary step, as there is always the required amount of keys in a dungeon to open all doors, and you will always find the item needed to use a device. I am uncertain if this is in regards to just ARR dungeons, but they've done some revamps of some, so why not add this?

Thank you!

This entire post likely took you more time to write than the combined amount of time it would take you to press all of the "YES TO OPEN LOCK" boxes that you will ever encounter in FF14.

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Originally Posted by PirateRyanG

This entire post likely took you more time to write than the combined amount of time it would take you to press all of the "YES TO OPEN LOCK" boxes that you will ever encounter in FF14.

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The point is in a modern MMO, or any game in general, this mechanic shouldn't even exist.

"Do you want to use this key item (that has no other purpose) on this mandatory interactable that you need to progress?"

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

The point is in a modern MMO, or any game in general, this mechanic shouldn't even exist.

"Do you want to use this key item (that has no other purpose) on this mandatory interactable that you need to progress?"

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It is likely tied into another system elsewhere in the game. That is why it isn't removed from dungeons.

I bet if this were removed, something elsewhere in the game (likely another agreement box) would break. Therefore, it isn't worth the time or effort to remove it.

There are multiple times throughout the single-player part of the story that you are faced with the same pop-up, and you really need that pop-up there. The code likely just sees a door, checks whether you have permission to open it, and then you say "yes" when you have permission. It doesn't see itself as a door in a dungeon.

Hm ... do you hear something? ... just a breeze.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

The point is in a modern MMO, or any game in general, this mechanic shouldn't even exist.

"Do you want to use this key item (that has no other purpose) on this mandatory interactable that you need to progress?"

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Exactly! I don't recall this being in the later expansions in dungeons, just an old relic from ARR. And if they felt the multiple paths weren't needed, why not update the doors and devices?

SE UI team love their menus.

Also it's not a relic from ARR era cause one of the current expert roulette dungeons has a thing to click after the first boss for absolutely no reason. They've had teleporters where you just run over them before but here? NOPE.

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Hm ... do you hear something? ... just a breeze.



Exactly! I don't recall this being in the later expansions in dungeons, just an old relic from ARR. And if they felt the multiple paths weren't needed, why not update the doors and devices?

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There are plenty of cases after ARR where you need "permission" to enter something and you talk to a door-like object (normally the Gate Protector person).

They could remove the doors, I guess. But sometimes you get funny situations where like in Haukke Manor, somebody doesn't pick up the final key, assuming the others have done. Leading to a mildly amusing situation of running around that final section again. Less amusing when our same group failed to pick up the bloodstained cloth to break the seal, though. That was a long-run back.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

SE UI team love their menus.

Also it's not a relic from ARR era cause one of the current expert roulette dungeons has a thing to click after the first boss for absolutely no reason. They've had teleporters where you just run over them before but here? NOPE.

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Clicking to move in some way isn't only in Stigma Dreamscape. It's even in Heavensward at Sohr Khai for example.

Would love this SO much. If a key/item can only be used in one place, in a completely linear dungeon, it just feels clunky. But as others have said, SE seems to really love their menus and prompts.

The reason it is there is because players can skip actually opening doors. In Haukke Manor there are a number of Tiny Keys that players can ignore because they know the direct path keys are not the Tiny Keys, but those keys still open cell doors with opponents and treasure chests available.

Why create another separate system to 'open' something when (a) it already works and (b) it has been taught to players for the at least the first 50 levels in-game? The system we have now is actually 'interact with dungeon', which is taught to players from the moment they first enter Sastasha and codified during the Hall of the Novice training.