Black Mage and me

Disappointed comparing either my Black Mage or Red Mage, in Trust, with Alisaie's DPS. At level 84 in Tower of Babil she does 35% higher DPS than my BLM (using ACT). I have heard Trusts are slower than player groups because the Trust DPS is lower than actual players. That means I am REALLY lower than actual players. Have spent weeks fine-tuning my rotation - think I know how to play BLM but maybe this class rotation is just not meshing with me. How does your DPS stack up against Alisaie? (P.S. My gear level is 528)

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Originally Posted by Kenyon

Disappointed comparing either my Black Mage or Red Mage, in Trust, with Alisaie's DPS. At level 84 in Tower of Babil she does 35% higher DPS than my BLM (using ACT). I have heard Trusts are slower than player groups because the Trust DPS is lower than actual players. That means I am REALLY lower than actual players. Have spent weeks fine-tuning my rotation - think I know how to play BLM but maybe this class rotation is just not meshing with me. How does your DPS stack up against Alisaie? (P.S. My gear level is 528)

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Trusts are an awful point of reference. They are hard coded to take 25-30 minutes in a dungeon. If you play well, they will eat glue and single target trash one by one. If you go AFK, after a certain point they will literally start one-shotting stuff.

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Originally Posted by Azuri

Trusts are an awful point of reference. They are hard coded to take 25-30 minutes in a dungeon. If you play well, they will eat glue and single target trash one by one. If you go AFK, after a certain point they will literally start one-shotting stuff.

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You got my curiosity up so I decided to run Tower of Babil and do NO dps at all - never tried that before. Whole thing took only 5-6 mins more than it normally does! Looks like I should not knock myself out dps'ing for a few minutes less. I had often wished there was a better way to watch a boss fight than the YouTube videos which can leave out some details. This is a great alternative to just watch and learn!

Black mage can do good damage, it's just that the weight of each of its actions is a lot higher than other caster jobs and therefore the mechanic they use to juggle said actions is a lot more punishing than the other casters. Like if you lose your astral fire while mid-casting despair, you lose the damage from the spell as well as the time spent attempting the cast. Not to mention if the echolochian gets dropped entirely and there's no instant cast cooldowns left, getting back into the right motion also costs significant amounts of time.

Let's just say BLM is one of the least new player friendly jobs there is in the game. The other one up there is probably DRK due to the challenges it has with mitigation.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

Black mage can do good damage, it's just that the weight of each of its actions is a lot higher than other caster jobs and therefore the mechanic they use to juggle said actions is a lot more punishing than the other casters. Like if you lose your astral fire while mid-casting despair, you lose the damage from the spell as well as the time spent attempting the cast. Not to mention if the echolochian gets dropped entirely and there's no instant cast cooldowns left, getting back into the right motion also costs significant amounts of time.

Let's just say BLM is one of the least new player friendly jobs there is in the game. The other one up there is probably DRK due to the challenges it has with mitigation.

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Those are all good things, it's more gratifying to execute something properly when screwing it up is punishing. I wish all jobs were as punishing but unfortunately people like you only get 18/19 jobs. How will you manage.

Yeah, again, depth in FF14 job, how dare they.

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Originally Posted by tearagion

Those are all good things, it's more gratifying to execute something properly when screwing it up is punishing. I wish all jobs were as punishing but unfortunately people like you only get 18/19 jobs. How will you manage.

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In a different game, sure. Unfortunately, that direction was gone when they started the march from 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

In a different game, sure. Unfortunately, that direction was gone when they started the march from 2.0.

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Then play a different job or game if it's making you that unhappy.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

Let's just say BLM is one of the least new player friendly jobs there is in the game. The other one up there is probably DRK due to the challenges it has with mitigation.

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??? What challenges are you encountering in 2022 with mitigation in this game?

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Originally Posted by xAFROx

Then play a different job or game if it's making you that unhappy.

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I've played a lot of jobs and the only ones I haven't really started on are Dancer, Monk, and Astro. From what I've heard I probably should have leveled astro last x-pack but too late on that ship.

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Originally Posted by butchersblock

??? What challenges are you encountering in 2022 with mitigation in this game?

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Oh no problem at all if you're on anything other than DRK. Leveled all the tanks and if you really want to engage in that conversation, go to the Dark Knight Megathread. :P