Samurai needs love

Samurai needs something to help with them living. They are the least likely to survive out of all the melees at the moment since sams unlike the others have no way back out of fights. I would rather chiten go back to 50% or at least make it last longer at the current percentage

No, Samurai is exactly how damage dealers should be, medium defense. Samurai doesn't need a defensive boost, he needs instant casts, it's unberable in higher elo when the NIN runs like sonic, that alone would help SAM immense to fulfill his role as executer/burster. The whole problem with SAM is that all his skills are built around that the enemy is shit.

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Even if SAM were to receive buffs these should be focused on:

- Instant casts or at least lower them to 0.5 seconds
- Reworking Mineuchi eg Mineuchi does more damage the more Health the enemy has lost not the fucking other way around
- Reworking LB eg LB should be a 1:15 and have his instant kill removed as well as being guardable and just be true damage
- Buff Soten+Combo1 eg remove the garbage frostnova give movementspeed/slow the enemy and increase the potency by 1-2k

No, Samurai is fine

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Originally Posted by RileyNoxus

Samurai needs something to help with them living. They are the least likely to survive out of all the melees at the moment since sams unlike the others have no way back out of fights. I would rather chiten go back to 50% or at least make it last longer at the current percentage

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Is this a joke post? Serious question. Sam is the strongest melee pvp job in the game right now. It has TOO much going on for it.

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Originally Posted by Likethewind

No, Samurai is fine

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^ This. SAM in the right hands is one of the best equipped to pressure behind enemy lines and give numerical advantages @ the crystal.

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Originally Posted by drtasteyummy

- Reworking LB eg LB should be a 1:15 and have his instant kill removed as well as being guardable and just be true damage

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While I agree with the initial sentiment, SAM LB is not an instant kill. If the debuff is active, it will do the the targets Full HP amount but is subject to any % increases, or more importantly, decreases. Ever had the the debuff up on you, braced for death and then wondered how you made it out alive with 5% HP? Thank your AST teammate's LB or yourself from <10 seconds ago for casting Horrid Roar. Both of which reduce the damage output of the SAM enough to survive.

This LB, at higher tiers of competition is actually pretty meh. Players that clock target beneficial status/LB bar can easily avoid the debuff by avoiding the sam directly or indirectly via AoEs.

I'd like to see SAM LB be changed to mimic the NIN LB in that if you catch it with debuff up, it's an auto incapacitation.

But I do agree that 120 seconds for such a predictable/avoidable punish is too long.

For the sake of perspective, I don't main SAM nor do I use it in Crystal Tier ranked matches.

Are you kiding? I've been Zantetsu'd 3 times in a single Frontline right now by 2 different SAMs.

If I so much as brushed a single Apex Arrow by them, I'd be Kuzushi'd. And hell, it seems like you can execute someone on another SAM's Kuzuchi, doesn't even need to be your own.

Before you ever think about buffing those absolute cretins, take their 1HKO away from them.

I do feel sam need some love with def.
Chiten is only instant button with 25% def and 5s only
Ogi Namikiri require casting 1,3s and 2 target for 8k shield
Kaeshi Namikiri require use Ogi first and 2 target.
Oka restore 5k hp but require 2 combo + soten + target in 5y + server tick

drg,mnk,rpr and nin all has instant def and escape ability. sam has none XD.

the sam lb is a noob trap so.....

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Originally Posted by Sawamura

I do feel sam need some love with def.
Chiten is only instant button with 25% def and 5s only
Ogi Namikiri require casting 1,3s and 2 target for 8k shield
Kaeshi Namikiri require use Ogi first and 2 target.
Oka restore 5k hp but require 2 combo + soten + target in 5y + server tick

drg,mnk,rpr and nin all has instant def and escape ability. sam has none XD.

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Yeah which is why sam needs more defensives in this range world since you'll get blasted if your team starts to lose or you need to get away to heal

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Originally Posted by drtasteyummy

No, Samurai is exactly how damage dealers should be, medium defense. Samurai doesn't need a defensive boost, he needs instant casts, it's unberable in higher elo when the NIN runs like sonic, that alone would help SAM immense to fulfill his role as executer/burster. The whole problem with SAM is that all his skills are built around that the enemy is shit.

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Even if SAM were to receive buffs these should be focused on:

- Instant casts or at least lower them to 0.5 seconds
- Reworking Mineuchi eg Mineuchi does more damage the more Health the enemy has lost not the fucking other way around
- Reworking LB eg LB should be a 1:15 and have his instant kill removed as well as being guardable and just be true damage
- Buff Soten+Combo1 eg remove the garbage frostnova give movementspeed/slow the enemy and increase the potency by 1-2k

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I get people are mad that they make a big oppsie and hit the sam when they have chiten up which is only 5 secs duration which leads you to get clapped