Why try to rank up on Diamond 4/3 I keep getting matched vs a full Crystal team with broken Red Mages and Black Mages, this is so frustrating, not fun or fair.
I hate this from CC
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05-30-2022, 12:02 PMValkValkValkI hate this from CC
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05-30-2022, 02:46 PMPetite
I may be wrong, but they seem to put more matchmaking weight on people on a win streak. So maybe you had some on your team. Or your guess is as good as mine and there's simply no MM at all.
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05-30-2022, 06:59 PMThaCa
Sadly that's the meta until they nerf BLM. Diamond 3 and onwards are in the same bracket as Crystals right now and it isn't very fun for Crystal players either to get Diamonds vs full Crystal.
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05-31-2022, 07:01 AMKickRoxLearn RDM/BLM..?Quote:
Originally Posted by ValkValkValk
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05-31-2022, 07:39 AMIsaacMerquiseThat is NEVER the answer you should have. The meta shouldn't be so heavily skewed towards one job that people are actually discouraged and told to play a job they want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by KickRox
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05-31-2022, 12:30 PMLammas
I'd say it'd make sense if crystal players above, say, 1000-2000 points wouldn't get matched with diamonds anymore but that's more for the crystal players sake if anything. Pulling people who're putting in time trying to rank up on the crystal ladder into diamond games shouldn't happen past a certain point IMO.
Having said that, I don't really understand the complaint of getting matched against crystal from a diamond players perspective. You've had to deal with people one rank higher than you throughout your climb so why is it suddenly unfair at the last moment? If you're trying to climb to crystal then surely you should be able to somewhat hold your own against them instead of just stomping on plats. Fun and frustration are subjective but calling it unfair is a bit of a stretch. -
06-09-2022, 10:49 PMLatarmaso what if dragoon had all of its jumps from pve but a cc and ever better damage and say summoner lb range would you then say Lean dragoon? not trying to be an jerk i'm 100% carious if you stance would be the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by KickRox
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06-10-2022, 01:28 AMNaphthaThanks for posting the worst forum post I have ever seen in my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by KickRox
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06-10-2022, 03:10 AMLeonerdo
If you play like a Crystal player, you'll get to Crystal in less than 100 games, guaranteed. It's so easy to rank up in CC. You get free stars from win-streaks, and never lose anything extra. Meanwhile, people in Diamond 5 or 0-credit Crystal are free to throw as many games as they want, without losing anything. (It's a good place to try out new things, since you can't lose ranks, and you get better matches than in Casual queue.) These people should provide free wins to you more often than not. 5 chances that there's one on the enemy team, and only 4 chances on your team.
CC is inflationary, because overall more stars are earned than lost. After the first few weeks, only the absolute worst players (and brand-new ones) will be in Bronze. Then it becomes trivial to climb out of Bronze, no matter how bad you are. You could lose half your games and get Silver by grinding out 10 winstreak bonuses. So Silver will slowly receive those shitty players. Then the same thing happens in Silver. Good players get to Gold first, leaving only shitty players in Silver, and it becomes easy to win in Silver. And so on and so forth. It's impossible to drop ranks, and inevitable that you (and everyone around you) will climb, given enough time. Until eventually Diamond = Bronze, and literally half the population could get Crystal in 150 games or less (1 free win-streak star per 10 games should be easy). This is of course a huge exaggeration, and it would take 100s of games from every player over the course of years to achieve. But the season resets every ~2 months. So by the end of a season it's more like Gold = Bronze, and Diamond = Plat. But the point stands. As time passes, it gets easier to climb. And you can always get 1 big lucky winstreak for 8+ stars to finish the climb. Even if you don't deserve it, you'll get Crystal eventually, assuming you can win half the time in Diamond.
So yeah, sure, if you're the only Diamond 3 player, in a match with 9 Crystals, it'll be a tough match, but you should still win 50/50 against them if you deserve to be in Crystal. And you will eventually climb with free win-streak stars.
Not all Crystal players are good, btw. Anyone at 0 rating isn't much better than a Diamond 1-3, and they might be messing around with jobs they've never played before. -
06-10-2022, 03:14 AMGserpentThat's how competitive games work, though. You either play the overpowered thing or you play the thing that defeats the overpowered thing. And in most cases, the overpowered thing isn't really overpowered, it's just popular.Quote:
Originally Posted by IsaacMerquise
If you want to play what you personally enjoy, then you should accept that you will win fewer games. Or that ranked/competitive play maybe ain't for you.