Can we have Tetragrammaton at Lv.15?

I think it would contribute to bringing the early gameplay of AST and WHM closer into a line with eachother and it would serve to enable the "deal damage until necessary" playstyle early into a new player's career by not locking off access to an "oh shit"-button until Heavensward.

Ideally the Lv.15 version of Tetra should have a weaker potency (maybe 400, as the default potency of Essential Dignity) with an upgrade that boosts it to its original potency at Lv.60

WHM can't have nice things. Everything must be backloaded and inferior to other healers, else it's "too hard" for baby's first MMO Healer

/s but not really.

It would destroy even more what remains of the bahamut coil challenge, so no thanks.
Plus lv50 whm gameplay is perhaps the best gameplay of the job (or the least bad) as it doesn't rely on ogcd and free heals, which means more casting and mp management.

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Originally Posted by Grann-Goro

It would destroy even more what remains of the bahamut coil challenge, so no thanks.
Plus lv50 whm gameplay is perhaps the best gameplay of the job (or the least bad) as it doesn't rely on ogcd and free heals, which means more casting and mp management.

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You could always just take the spells off of your bars so you could have your challenge that way. WHM really needs to be equal to AST earlier on, it's a huge pain to play at lower levels and there's no benefit.

then the next thing people want is to move blood lily to level 10 as there are too many gcd healing and no reward

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Originally Posted by IanR

then the next thing people want is to move blood lily to level 10 as there are too many gcd healing and no reward

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Absolutely. WHM should have both Rapture and Misery by level 50.

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Originally Posted by Grann-Goro

It would destroy even more what remains of the bahamut coil challenge, so no thanks.
Plus lv50 whm gameplay is perhaps the best gameplay of the job (or the least bad) as it doesn't rely on ogcd and free heals, which means more casting and mp management.

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Yeah, because those things only need to exist for WHM and not AST or SGE. Make it excruciating to sync down as White Mage, yeah that's the REAL challenge!!!! ROFL.

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Originally Posted by Grann-Goro

It would destroy even more what remains of the bahamut coil challenge, so no thanks.
Plus lv50 whm gameplay is perhaps the best gameplay of the job (or the least bad) as it doesn't rely on ogcd and free heals, which means more casting and mp management.

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See, the way I read this is that WHM is weaker in Level 50 content so you're bordering on trolling for playing it, especially in content like synced coil.
I'd like that to not be the case please.

Yeah honestly, when I'm doing content that I know will be below level 50, I don't even queue in as WHM. I go as AST or SCH.

I went into this game wanting to heal, and WHM was the only option available right out the gate. My experience from level 1 was terrible. Hard casting the same 2 spells, slowly. Tanks who don't mitigate, in min level gear, wall pulling and I'm just spamming Cure 2 because as soon as I heal them they just take even more damage. Not a single instant cast burst heal until benediction at level 50, which is on such a long CD that it barely counts. You don't even get an aoe regen until relatively late. The single target regen is pretty late as well, not 'til the mid 30s if I remember right. It felt awful. Aurum Vale was misery. It got better after 50, but the job felt so different that it was a little jarring when lilies were introduced all of a sudden. When I leveled SCH/AST later, I was mad at how much better they had it in the early game, and how AST's early game in particular did such a superior job of laying the foundation of what was to come. All jobs should have an early game that tries to do this.

So yeah I'd be all for it. Teach early WHMs how to work their heals between damaging spells and incentivize good play early on. Maybe cut down on all those 0 DPS WHMs I see in dutyfinder/partyfinder. There's no downside to this imo.

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Originally Posted by Grann-Goro

It would destroy even more what remains of the bahamut coil challenge, so no thanks.
Plus lv50 whm gameplay is perhaps the best gameplay of the job (or the least bad) as it doesn't rely on ogcd and free heals, which means more casting and mp management.

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I genuinely hate to break it to you, but even min ilvl synced will never give you that challenging feeling of the old content as it was when it came out. You're likely running it with jobs that didn't even exist back then, using skills the content wasn't balanced around with different potencies those devs never accounted for, and none of the resource limitations that people originally had (because nobody even uses mp anymore outside of like 3 jobs, and TP doesn't exist anymore, etc). Thousands of new WHMs shouldn't have to suffer because you want an authentic coils challenge that doesn't exist anymore. That ship sailed a long time ago. I know you said "even more" to imply that you're aware of this, but I really want to emphasize how much has changed since then because I think it shows how trivial 1 tetragrammaton (iirc op even mentioned a lower potency version) is compared to how the rest of the game has progressed and indirectly nerfed older content anyway. Giving WHMs tetra would be negligible compared to all of that.

Imo spells should be every 5 and 10 lvls never understood why its so clunky example whm get regen at 30 but ast cant use aspect till 34.. which was funny since dirunal sect can be use on 30 in old ast lol yet they get cheaper asp helios at 42 while whm dont get more expensive medica 2 at 50? Terrible skill lvl design.