Hello all, I've been around since 1.0 Alpha and have completely immersed myself in FFXIV whenever I have time. I wanted to share my thoughts on this current situation.
1) Housing is an optional side-game that got a TON of attention because people like to show SWAG. Mog House decor in FFXI was similar and was awesome but EVERYONE got a mog house.
2) Housing has come a HELLUVA long way. As someone that was around for the intial onset, I loved housing from day 1. But hated the purchase system. I actually think the lottery system is more fair than before, but I don't enjoy it?
3) Square has a solution coming soon with "Island Sanctuaries". Not sure if you've all followed that one, but Patch 6.2 expected to add it, they plan to release more information later, however you essentially get a personal instanced island, where you can build a house, harvest crops, do little relaxing stuff. And at the same time have probably the same if not more control with the land around your house to decorate to your hearts desire.
- Because these will be instanced EVERYONE can have one.
- You can invite friends over, so you can have friends visit your sanctuary.
- Not sure if cross server capable or not yet, would be nice?
I think this really solves the longer overarching problem SE has had. Sure they could open a bunch more wards but because of how large the wards are now, they are requiring their own server and resources to handle everything always doing stuff in there.
Instanced can run on demand when you enter it, so thus reducing the server need over time, and also helps allow me and you and anyone else to relax.........
I do want to get a house, but I like the community of housing wards, people can run by and randomly visit your house. I had a house with my old FC on Excalibur, but we decided to move servers, and then I moved again a few months back when I found my biological family AND found out they played on a different server.
Needless to say, houses are great, but this new system will likely resolve the rest of your issues. I was seeing signs of June 2022 expected timeframe. But could be delayed a little so they can ensure the 'kinks' are mostly worked out.
This new lottery system while it has bugs, it could be worse... much worse. Trust me! I was in 1.0!
Classic Player's Take on Housing
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04-22-2022, 11:21 PMQuestClassic Player's Take on Housing
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04-22-2022, 11:22 PMOizen
Nice bait bro
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04-23-2022, 01:09 AMGreyhawkhttps://imgs.search.brave.com/m3smPT...XNpci5naWY.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Quest
Okay? So I was born in the United States and travelled around since I was a child.
I could identify as a traffic cone if I wanted to.
The garbage in my area is picked up every Monday, rain or shine.
You see how much more important I am?
And by the way, housing is NOT in Island Sanctuary. There is not been given any indication to that and I wish they would actually make a news post to shut this down for good. It would be a great plan to transition to instanced housing, sure. This isn't housing though. -
04-23-2022, 06:03 AMJojoya
Hard to trust someone intentionally spreading misinformation.
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04-25-2022, 10:29 PMQuestMisinformation? I listened to an interview from last year explaining that you could build in island sanctuary, and minions running free. Unless he was lying I'm not? Check yourself before you wreck yourself. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya
As far as "Bait" posts go. No idea what you're talking about. I was merely stating that this game has seen much worse days back in that era. Housing issues suck, any issues suck, but when you couldn't even ride a chocobo (It wasn't finished being written yet), or jump, or get past level 30... I mean, those were bigger fish to fry.. -
04-25-2022, 10:34 PMGreyhawkHoo boy, I think you had better go back and hash out some details regarding Island Sanctuary before you make yourself look a little more foolish. It != housing. Part of what you said is true regarding 'building' and minions; however, after that you are assuming it's housing. It's not. I think you're the one who might need to check themselves. You already wrecked yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quest
Yes, we all know housing in its current state sucks. But nonetheless, you are spreading misinformation about it being housing, as others have as well. They frankly haven't given us enough information on Island, but they gave us enough to know it's not a housing replacement. -
04-25-2022, 10:52 PMQuest
I mean this is what I listened to, sounds like you'll be able to build something and probably have control (Blank canvas implies you can create/design what you want)
lot in a lot of people are thinking that maybe uh island sanctuary will be something
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very akin to animal crossing uh but animal crossing is really the product of many many years
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of you know installments very many iterations um much development uh so uh first and
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foremost i'd just like to say that uh please don't expect something on that
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level uh because it will be a little bit tough for us
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but i would like to provide you some general details just some general information so this is going to be
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island sanctuary is new content that we're putting in the game and we will be uh putting it in the six point x series
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and we will make sure to update the content regularly as well so it will be
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a quite a large scale new form of content
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only
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and so really the concept is that you obviously have your own island uh so
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you have at the start kind of like a blank canvas and so you can see okay what type of building do i want to place
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here what type of materials do i want to gather and you know you can see okay
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maybe i want to let my minions roam free in this uh in this island so that was
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really the concept we were going for this is not going to be a con the type of content where people compete with
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each other and you won't feel pressurized like for example if someone is trying to uh get
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elegant tombstones you know they feel like oh i have to do that content every week
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so it's really free from those pressures and laid back relaxed uh where basically
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uh you have your own sanctuary uh your island
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so this isn't not the type of content where you would expect to find that you know the goal is to get like a super
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strong weapon or you know for the people who like raiding then maybe this is not
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so much their cup of tea maybe they will not play it
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so really i'd like people to think of it that in fight in 14 uh this is an area
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where you can relax so basically you you can also call over your friends to your
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island have a chat with them you can go visit your friends island but basically it's with laid-back
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relaxed content so it's typically the things like maybe tending to crops
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or you know like uh looking after animals raising animals uh
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that was more the concept that we were going
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[Music]
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so of course that there is content which is the there's a focus on the house the garden and the furniture
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uh but this i would say island sanctuary you could see like a little bit of a rank higher because there's there's a
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bit more broad uh things in there in the
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but i think that's probably about all i can share for today
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04-26-2022, 03:31 AMGreyhawk
Copy/paste whatever helps you sleep at night, and yes include that bold type line. If you would have paid any detailed attention to the live letter when it was announced they mentioned this. It wouldn't be anything more than basically a shack you could put things in to decorate it and is nowhere near housing.
But, if it scratches the itch for players to think they can identify having a 'house' in a place where one won't be, who are we to judge. -
04-26-2022, 09:39 AMJojoyaYoshiP told us we will be able to place buildings in Island Sanctuary. That doesn't constitute a housing system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quest
Minions are not housing.
You've wrecked yourself.
I also didn't refer to your post as bait.
As for your copy of the transcript from the media tour, you shouldn't cherry pick what you bold.
That is referring to the content that is the current housing system, not Island Sanctuary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quest
That is what is referring to Island Sanctuary. He is in fact telling us that Island Sanctuary is something different from housing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quest
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04-26-2022, 11:05 PMQuest
I don't disagree its different. My god man, if it was a COPY AND PASTE of the existing housing system it'd be just as much of an issue. The point is its yours you'd be able to do stuff you want. Its one of the best additions to the game I've seen proposed since ARR for casual players.
The ONLY thing that would make most people happy is to open up 20+ more wards in each residential district.. But as you know, that wouldn't ultimately solve the issue. Instanced housing won't scratch most players itch, and I agree neither will island sanctuary, but it gives players a place to do what they want. It will probably be akin to how an apartment doesn't make most people happy, but it provides a place to store your junk.
I always thought and felt the charm of housing is random people visiting. Seeing the work you put into it. I'm unlikely to be able to get a house on my current server, and its unfortunate, but I have an apartment and once again that gives me a place to store my stuff and do some basic decorating.
We're clearly not going to come to an agreement. I look forward to the release so we can finally see what the final vision/product is.