Ok so looks like people are still taking advantage and getting multiple houses.

I just stumbled across this.
From the comments people seem to think that its 1 FC that's made sub FC's and bought a heap of houses which is well unfair but i imagine legal.
What i would like to know is how they didn't get the 0 bug, i mean i know some people have been successful but this is multiple houses all without the bug.
This is a new server so cant be grandfathering.

https://i.imgur.com/MOlWyNx.pngs

They did get the 0 bug on plot number 1,2,3,9,10 etc

EDIT: I was proven mistaken further down. Gonna leave the post itself up, but you may ignore this.

Have a close look at where that ward is:
>The Goblet

The only new plots added was the new housing area in Ishgard. Ward 2 of the Goblet has existed since the day housing was first released to this game years ago. All those empty plots are presumably caused by people moving to Ishgard, but obviously that FC is staying there because they own multiple houses there and they can not move those because if they tried to move them the "only one house per FC" rule that exists would stop them. But back when housing was first released, different rules applied, including being able to own multiple houses both privately an as a Free Company. People who obtained multiple houses legally back then did not lose them when the rules changed, since it would be pretty awful to punish people for doing something that was 100% okay when they did it.

Hope that clears up the confusion.

It happens because there's no competition for FC plots, workshops can be lucrative and the player involved will have multiple service accounts to assist in obtaining all those houses (though I doubt very much each is on a separate service account)

SE chose to leave loopholes in the system so players will naturally take advantage. Sometimes I don't think it's as much to upset other players (though it obviously does) but rather to rub in SE's face how idiotic their attempts to automate policing of the system are and to prove that SE does not actually care about their own rules.

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Originally Posted by KuroMaboroshi

Have a close look at where that ward is:
>The Goblet

The only new plots added was the new housing area in Ishgard. Ward 2 of the Goblet has existed since the day housing was first released to this game years ago. All those empty plots are presumably caused by people moving to Ishgard, but obviously that FC is staying there because they own multiple houses there and they can not move those because if they tried to move them the "only one house per FC" rule that exists would stop them. But back when housing was first released, different rules applied, including being able to own multiple houses both privately an as a Free Company. People who obtained multiple houses legally back then did not lose them when the rules changed, since it would be pretty awful to punish people for doing something that was 100% okay when they did it.

Hope that clears up the confusion.

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Sephorit is one of the Materia worlds that just opened in January. None of their housing was available until this patch. It is impossible for any of that to be grandfathered.

Hope that clears up your confusion.

People defend this system.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Sephorit is one of the Materia worlds that just opened in January. None of their housing was available until this patch. It is impossible for any of that to be grandfathered.

Hope that clears up your confusion.

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It does indeed. I don't know all the server names by heart, so I wasn't aware this on is on OCE. In that case, consider my attempt at an explanation retracted and I would also be curious to know how this happened.

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Originally Posted by KuroMaboroshi

Have a close look at where that ward is:
>The Goblet

The only new plots added was the new housing area in Ishgard. Ward 2 of the Goblet has existed since the day housing was first released to this game years ago. All those empty plots are presumably caused by people moving to Ishgard, but obviously that FC is staying there because they own multiple houses there and they can not move those because if they tried to move them the "only one house per FC" rule that exists would stop them. But back when housing was first released, different rules applied, including being able to own multiple houses both privately an as a Free Company. People who obtained multiple houses legally back then did not lose them when the rules changed, since it would be pretty awful to punish people for doing something that was 100% okay when they did it.

Hope that clears up the confusion.

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Yeah nah, as Jojoya says, this on Materia. (OCE)

Goblet is only one day old here when that picture is taken. No grandfathering.

Same person has done it on all five servers in Materia, taken Goblet 2, five times over.

I can imagine how it would be worse if the zero bug didn't happen, but there is the next round eventually, so everyone expects to see then take the whole ward five times over.

Which is an impressive feat, really. World first at owning anentire DC's housing, easily beating grandfathered <<lucis>> on Spriggin, isn't it?

EDIT: Seems their empire is growing

16-20 homes now on day two of goblet on each of the five servers.

https://i.gyazo.com/381b9aa75e2e673b...f0c853010b.png
https://i.gyazo.com/84446dce1a79e874...ea0003e3aa.png
https://i.gyazo.com/597a9f04dfc00eec...4621e21484.png
https://i.gyazo.com/0a6cb63489aedb6f...8c01b71718.png
https://i.gyazo.com/ad90b3fa7d9ca897...2197c73850.png

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Which is an impressive feat, really. World first at owning anentire DC's housing, easily beating grandfathered <<lucis>> on Spriggin, isn't it?

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That's the thing, it's not grandfathered. Nothing about ownership permissions has changed. Spriggan isn't "grandfathered". If you're looking for a grandfathered ward owner, that would be the Mateus group. This person is doing this within the guidelines of the system.

The ownership limitations is 1 Personal per server and 1 FC that you, the player, have PURCHASED FROM THE PLACARD. This limitation does not factor in people who have been transferred lead through any means (EX: manual transfer, inactive leadership transfer, etc.). With transfers in mind, a player can theoretically own up to 8 FC houses per server. Assuming 1 is purchased from the placard, and the other 7 have had ownership transferred to the player through any means. The 6.1 changes to the passage of FC leadership/purchase permissions were a way to curb this (or at least make it so that people really have to think about who they're transferring leadership to).

What this person did was make multiple FCs on Materia (likely when they opened the DC up), let them sit for 30 days (with all their alts in there for 30 days too), and then bid on plots in the lottery. They likely shuffled alts around across multiple accounts in order to reset the placard purchase flag (if you leave a fc it resets the flag that goes up when you purchase a fc from the placard). What they did, unfortunately, is completely within the guidelines of our system.

Is it frustrating? Yes. Am I disagreeing with you for being annoyed? No. Do I think Squenix needs to reevaluate how they handle these permissions with a finite housing system? Yes. But I'm correcting the fact that Square Enix did not "grandfather" anything with 6.0/6.1. The only difference between Spriggan and this Materia ward owner is the lottery system and the 30 day FC restriction. That's literally it.

these FCs is going to be sold for profits on some reddit page or the likes, WILL SE handle it now it is brand new data?

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

these FCs is going to be sold for profits on some reddit page or the likes, WILL SE handle it now it is brand new data?

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Actually, no. This is someone who's been operating on other DCs and has followed the same pattern there. Doesn't resell. I presume has them for the workshop.

And I had hoped SE would make this difficult. But most likely this person has more accounts than Carter has little liver pills and this ownership is entirely above board according to the systems SE has in place.

Which is why I keep saying SE has to actually monitor the housing situation and take action when they see these things. They are loathe to do that, however, so this will continue to happen.

Honestly this entire fiasco is a great time for SE to pay attention to the flaws in housing and figure out how to overhaul it.