Help! I'm having problem healing GNB mass pull.

I don't mind mass pull. I love using Art of War to damage.

However I seems to have a problem keeping tank alive. (Especially GNB)

I usually Adloquium/Excogitation pre pull, whispering Dawn, Protraction (Aetherpact/Fey Union) on tank. Then I will keep casting Art of War on mobs. This works most of the time, however there are instances where tank just drop death within secs. I will use Lustrate/Emergency Tactics+Adloquium. But they still die.

Am I doing something wrong? Should I use more Fey Illumination/Dissipation/Expedient?

I think sacred soil would be a good start to get that 10% mitigation going.

i always have lustrate at the ready and depending on how big the pull is, make sure to use sacred soil at your discretion, every little bit helps. but if your tank doesn't pop his defensives then eff him lol that's his fault for dying.

The most likely scenario however, is that the GnBs you get are just bad.


As a GnB main I can tell you, healing this job in dungeons is not hard. Is it harder to heal than warrior? Well, yeah of course, but that's because Bloodwhetting is busted.

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Originally Posted by FudoMyoo

I don't mind mass pull. I love using Art of War to damage.

However I seems to have a problem keeping tank alive. (Especially GNB)

I usually Adloquium/Excogitation pre pull, whispering Dawn, Protraction (Aetherpact/Fey Union) on tank. Then I will keep casting Art of War on mobs. This works most of the time, however there are instances where tank just drop death within secs. I will use Lustrate/Emergency Tactics+Adloquium. But they still die.

Am I doing something wrong? Should I use more Fey Illumination/Dissipation/Expedient?

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I main healer and sometimes is my fault because i try to dps to much, but with the release of Endwalker there are a lot of people leveling classes that they are not used to. So don't sweat it.

I had a gnb the other day who claimed that he shouldn't even need to use HoC on trash packs in a wall pull, all he used was rampart and suffice to say he died very quickly. I wasn't gonna bust my balls to heal that, so I asked him to mitigate more after he dropped, he got defensive and called me incapable and I got votekicked (thank god). Idk where this mentality of lemme just hold onto this 25s cd for a rainy day comes from but goodness some people really shouldn't play tank. So besides the lack of soil I'm gonna say you got a bad tank cuz even with soil there's almost nothing you can do if the tank isn't doing their job.

Check the tank's buffs in the party/target window to see if they are using their cooldowns, If you see nothing then you gotta start pulling healing potency from the book of magical wonders.

Expedient is definitely good to use when travelling to pull more dungeon mobs, it's definitely worthwile to use and provides some light mitigation while the tank is rounding mobs up. Though, if the tank is undergeared there is not much that can be done about that situation.

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Originally Posted by MsTanya

I had a gnb the other day who claimed that he shouldn't even need to use HoC on trash packs in a wall pull, all he used was rampart and suffice to say he died very quickly. I wasn't gonna bust my balls to heal that, so I asked him to mitigate more after he dropped, he got defensive and called me incapable and I got votekicked (thank god). Idk where this mentality of lemme just hold onto this 25s cd for a rainy day comes from but goodness some people really shouldn't play tank. So besides the lack of soil I'm gonna say you got a bad tank cuz even with soil there's almost nothing you can do if the tank isn't doing their job.

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Casually levelling sage through SHB dungeons lately and I've had GNBs who were either gods or made of paper lol. Did a Malikah's Well with GNB who died on the first pull, I assumed it was my fault but then realised he just didn't use anything. He pressed HoS maybe twice through the entire dungeon? Queued again right after and got a different GNB in the same dungeon who I could keep up just cycling Kerachole into Taurochole and some minor cds pretty much. The difference between some tanks is like night and day sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Izyla

Casually levelling sage through SHB dungeons lately and I've had GNBs who were either gods or made of paper lol. Did a Malikah's Well with GNB who died on the first pull, I assumed it was my fault but then realised he just didn't use anything. He pressed HoS maybe twice through the entire dungeon? Queued again right after and got a different GNB in the same dungeon who I could keep up just cycling Kerachole into Taurochole and some minor cds pretty much. The difference between some tanks is like night and day sometimes.

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Expect if you play drk,even when I did rotate my cooldowns in dungeons from lvl 81 too 90 I always thought “Jesus/healer take the wheel”.

I would shift Protraction to one of the first abilities that I weave so everything that I throw after within next 10s would be 10% stronger.

My fave drill with SCH wall pull is something like this:
Biolysis/Ground Slap + Recitation + Protraction > Ground Slap + WD + SS > Ground Slap + Excog > Show off that bicep by slapping harder. Keep the last two stock handy in case the tank needs the Lustrates. Blessing, now costing no fae gauge, can also be uses liberally for tank healing in wall pulls.

Recitation can be weaved few seconds before tank finish pulling. I do have to remember to actually use it for something within next 15s.

Additionally, if I foreseen the current pull will die soon, I’ll try to spend any remaining leftover stacks and hit that Dissipation (hopefully fast enough). Now I can start next wall pull with 20% stronger prepull Adlo, built up fae gauge for Union, & 6 stocks ready (3 from diss, another 3 from Aetherflow that’s about or should be off cooldown by then). Maybe... drop an Illumination there too for a beefy 30% prepull shield? But it's largely unneeded. I find it somewhat handy if I need to fall back on some Adlos with the extra 10% healing magic buff, but this situation rarely happens.

Feeling extra? I can summon seraph and watch as she trivializes pulls on most part, or on her own. But she's there if I need something more to help a struggling tanks... and to let me slap the ground more. Do remember to use the Consolation charges if you decide to summon her.

GNB dying in ‘few seconds’? That’s more like a gear and mitigation problem from their side. Sometimes not even you spamming Adlos can save these tanks.

Expedient…? Treat it as additional layer of mitigation if you'd like to. But guess what, I often only remember to use it to force tanks to sprint a wall pull cause for some reason they're not. Geezz SCHs why are you such a meme lmao.