Has this Forum always be so toxic or is it only now that FF14 got all the WoW players

EDIT: I regret making this thread. The WoW part was supposed to be just a little jest, but it seems to have started alot of... well, stuff that wasnt my intent. I am sorry...

Railing against WoW and its community is a form of toxicity, too. They're just MMO players, too.

As a fellow WoW refugee, I wonder the same. People on the forums are so angry and toxic about the most minor of issues. First world MMO problems really. They don't know how good they got it here.

Example. There was a thread a week or so ago complaining hardcore about the way dye looked on a certain piece of gear...oh to be able to dye your gear at all is like a dream lol.

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Originally Posted by HappyHubris

Railing against WoW and its community is a form of toxicity, too. They're just MMO players, too.

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Point is though, I heard so much good about the FF14 community, but the forums are full of toxic people... Makes you wonder... And I know threads like this, because WoWs General Chat used to look like this like 24/7...

Nah, it's always been bad, BUT... yeah it's worse now.

And I don't think other mmo players are solely to blame, lack of moderation and the current end times we live don't help.

There are toxic people on here like everywhere else but the silent majority are not toxic and chose not to engage in the madness. Please do not take people seriously, there are really nice and kind people here.

People are just upset over queue times and disconnects. Most are just venting. I'll save judgement on the forums when login times go back to normal.

I posted this in another thread, so I shall just copy and paste it here since it is relevant:

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I've been posting on these forums for years, personally, and I strongly disagree that they're terrible. At least here people don't receive death threats and if they do, they're dealt with by the moderators - which is more than can be said of the likes of Reddit and Twitter.

I'd be inclined to suggest that the only real issue around these parts stems from the 'super fans' who show up to treat any and every tiny little bit of criticism, no matter how constructive, as some deeply personal affront to their existence.

I'd also note that this is a global game with a global audience. Expecting everybody to package their feedback exactly to lofty, unrealistic expectations is pretty bizarre in my opinion.

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To add to that, I also think it's rather disingenuous to try and blame WoW players for 'toxicity'. From what I've seen, it's often the feigned concern for the 'toxicity' bogeyman that is in itself far more toxic than anything put forth by the supposed 'opposition.'

This forum is to the FFXIV community what /b/ is to the internet.

The forums only represent a minority amongst the XIV populace. I'd wager that the majority of us aren't toxic.