GNB QoL Change:

Revert the three cartridges back to two along with Bloodfest, and make Double Down cost one cartridge.

Let me preface this by saying that I enjoy Endwalker GNB. Heart of Corundum is amazing, Double Down is satisfying especially in mob pulls, uptime on Aurora with it's stacks is useful, and even Hypervelocity, that I wasnt too keen on considering it was another oGCD, is neat.

My issue is the third cartridge that came with the two cartridge cost of Double Down. GNB went from, on the low end, only needing one cartridge for an No Mercy burst to a mandatory three or your whole rotation is borked. This means that you spend most of your time 1-2-3ing for your next NM burst instead of using your cool new Hypervelocity after Burst Strike in between Gnashing combos. Not to mention how out of luck you are if you even think about spending a single gauge not on Gnashing or in an NM window. This is not only boring, but clunky, and an annoyance at times. Being forced to build gauge and being unable to freely spend it as you used to seems counterproductive to the job design. Not only that, but it throws what used to be a well flowing rotation for a loop when you consider that you cannot end a burst on Burst Strike as the 20sec NM means the following Hypervelocity will not be buffed.

I, along with many others, believe making the stated changes will make the job more fluid, more engaging, and be an overall improvement to the current iteration of GNB in Endwalker. As for what the lvl88 trait should be, take your pick. Make Bloodfest give us a charge of Aurora back? Apply a debuff that returns a cartridge if the target dies similar to old Soul Survivor? Have it restore HP as a 900 pot cure? Take your pick.

I like 3 cartridges, it feels like we got more powerful but I'd rather they nerf the damage of Double Down and decrease cost by 1 instead.

Its rotation really feels clunky now.

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Originally Posted by Ixon

My issue is the third cartridge that came with the two cartridge cost of Double Down. GNB went from, on the low end, only needing one cartridge for an No Mercy burst to a mandatory three or your whole rotation is borked. This means that you spend most of your time 1-2-3ing for your next NM burst instead of using your cool new Hypervelocity after Burst Strike in between Gnashing combos. Not to mention how out of luck you are if you even think about spending a single gauge not on Gnashing or in an NM window. This is not only boring, but clunky, and an annoyance at times. Being forced to build gauge and being unable to freely spend it as you used to seems counterproductive to the job design. Not only that, but it throws what used to be a well flowing rotation for a loop when you consider that you cannot end a burst on Burst Strike as the 20sec NM means the following Hypervelocity will not be buffed.

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I do agree with the 1 2 3 part, good thing is that every 30 seconds there is Gnashing Fang.
However, I borked my rotations, many, many times yet didn't have much trouble with Double Down.

If you really want a fix, you can simply adjust Bloodfest at 60s (And maybe only giving 2 Cartridges) so you are garanteed to get a Double down in your No Mercy window.
I don't like this idea because all No Mercy windows would be the same, but it's the simplest QoL you can ask for if Cartridges is your problem.

Tbh I'm frustrated with all the new skills besides HoC so far.

- The 3 Cartridges make our opener incredibly awkward and the most unintuitive thing I've seen in a long time, just so we can enter the next NM with 3 cartridges again.
- Hypervelocity makes repositioning bosses (and often also weaving defensives) just as bad as I expected, luckily we only have 2 EX trials so far and one of the bosses doesn't move, but I expect this to become a lot worse later on.
- The fact that Burst Strike + Hypervelocity is a 20 potency gain over Gnashing Fang + Jugular Rip.


GnB's rotation flowed incredibly well in ShB, the new additions throw a giant wrench into that and for what? Another forced oGCD and hurrdurr big potency.

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Originally Posted by Aluja89

I like 3 cartridges, it feels like we got more powerful but I'd rather they nerf the damage of Double Down and decrease cost by 1 instead.

Its rotation really feels clunky now.

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Tbh, I feel like the extra cartridge is the illusion of a buff. GNB builds cartridges so easily, I don't feel that much stronger having it. It just means instead of spending cartridges more, I am building gauge more.

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

If you really want a fix, you can simply adjust Bloodfest at 60s (And maybe only giving 2 Cartridges) so you are garanteed to get a Double down in your No Mercy window.

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Making a button solely exist for another button is just button bloat imo. The 90sec Bloodfest at least means you aren't using it every NM at least. So if you wanted to reduce it to 60sec, just combine them at that point, make Bloodfest give two gauge and turn into Double Down after or something similar.

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Originally Posted by Ixon

Making a button solely exist for another button is just button bloat imo. The 90sec Bloodfest at least means you aren't using it every NM at least. So if you wanted to reduce it to 60sec, just combine them at that point, make Bloodfest give two gauge and turn into Double Down after or something similar.

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At that point you might as well remove Bloodfest and make Double Down cost no cartridges.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

At that point you might as well remove Bloodfest and make Double Down cost no cartridges.

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I was stating that if the person wanted to make BF 60sec, to make it still give two gauge and turn into a free double down. I'm open to better ideas though.

Reduce Double Down to 1 cartridge, reduce the cartridge count back to 2, and increase the range of continuation to at least 5 yalms.

That's really all GNB needs, IMO. The problem with the job as a whole is that they were already so well done in ShB, trying to add things on top of it is always going to invite ire. GNB didn't really need anything going into Endwalker, so anything added on to that kit is going to feel tacked on. GNB suffers the problem exactly opposite to DRK, it was simply too well put together from the get-go.

three cartridges is fine
but double down should only cost 1 and no mercy last 25 seconds

Hyper velocity shouldn't be apart of continuation should just evolve Burst strike into a two hit move

as a side note Double down feels incredibly lifeless compared to other cartridge spenders while it looks cool and does a lot of damage just doesnt have the same impact as the cartridge combo or burst strike