Tank Spanking Mechanics added To Bosses/Trash

Monsters I'm gonna explain come 3 different groups, purely based on the side of the monsters/bosses

Low Blow. Interact, shield slam now have reason for you to use them. does not share same dimishing returns as holy sense these are critical stuns sense bosses are immune to stuns most of the time wel

Large Monsters - in dungeons will preform tank busters. or may have unavoidable attacks or aoe attacks can be stunned or interjected. these things have lot hp its like fightening mini boss. its advance to kill the big ones.. before you deside to pull big, cause these thing show you no mercy these things deal same about damage as if you pulled 4 small groups of monsters. plus not wise to pull big with these if they can take 50-75% with single attack or summon about 10 bees that all have ability to fatal sting. or 10 bombs that all self-destruct. or gaze at you with eye. turn you to stone if you dont look the other way

Medium set monsters - now target a random dps or tank place a debuff known as enfeeble you take 25% more damage from attacks and you deal 25% less damage. healers need to esuna this status effect right away, they also may unavoidable slam placing heavy status on all nearby melee if you pull large monster with 2 many medium if manage get this debuff and healer doesn't esuna it off you. 100% hp gone

Small Monsters - some may have massive damage attacks. can be avoided. or do unavoidable line aoes. or attacks deal decent amount of damage without laying red stuff on the ground. long list nasty abilities that all tanks should keep good eye out for

bosses will have one ability can be stunned. in there rotation. some may have more then 1. allowing these abilities to have function in player vs monster all bosses even savage bosses and primal will have 1 or 2 abilities melee or tank dps can stun these attacks do have cast time but unavoidable unless stunned

some bosses may preform faints or fakes. using one abilitiy but it second one you really should use stun on or interject. only times bosses are not immune to stuns is when they preforming these abilities

this is to add some over all challange to tanking and healing . not ruin the fun for people

I wish they implanted the stun up and mechanic more....

This sounds like a fun concept and would surely make dungeons more interesting. I'd be all for it.
Sadly I don't see SE changing their dungeon formula it's always 2 trash packs > wall > 2 trash packs > boss and repeat.

More mechanics in general would be great, but I don't see the appeal of consistent categories of monsters (each with their consistent mechanics).

I'd start by emphasizing what we already have and can at least be faintly noticed at min ilvl:

• Self-healing mobs,
• Enemy healers who you'd want to interrupt or break LoS of,
• Mobs that do instant smallish AoEs around themselves with no indicator but with a consistent rest interval (melee switch sides of the pack as they go off),
• Mobs that do pre-animated AoEs without casts or indicators and must be dodged,
• Mobs that can truck the tank; tankbusters may or may not be stunnable, and
• Vuln, DoTs, Infirmity, etc., often stacking,
• Etc., etc.

This is tall request. It will require "remake" of trust system.

The big problem with the bosses doing it and having fake abilities to stun just means that everyone would have a PLD as OT since they can stun every 2.5 seconds with Shield Bash making the mechanic useless. Fake or real the PLD would stop them all.

The problem with requiring multiple stuns or interrupts is that they're not spread evenly across all jobs. If I queue for a roulette and my DPS are a BLM and a DNC, is the group doomed because there are no non-tank stuns?

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Originally Posted by Abomination713

The big problem with the bosses doing it and having fake abilities to stun just means that everyone would have a PLD as OT since they can stun every 2.5 seconds with Shield Bash making the mechanic useless. Fake or real the PLD would stop them all.

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Yes, because if this system was implemented Paladin would most definitely keep their no cool down stun.

Yep, not a single change.

Uh huh

One thing that I've always wanted to see is a gravity themed council fight where one group fights on the floor and one on the ceiling, and the mechanics of one affect the mechanics of the other. Every so often, the bosses would uppercut your tanks as tank busters, to punch swap you to the opposite side of the arena Feugen and Stalagg style.

It would be interesting to see a soft-enrage themed fight where the boss gains permanent stack-ups every time you make a mitigation mistake. Tankbusters might start out very soft but then quickly turn lethal as you run out of cooldowns to use, forcing you to pick and choose what you can afford to eat raw. Boss fakeouts and tells might work well here. You can still have a hard enrage at the end, but good cooldown use would effectively ease the mitigation check. The other way to do this is to have a vampiric tankbuster that heals the boss based on the damage received, encouraging you to mitigate more damage to speed up the fight.

I'd love to have another fight like T7/T7S, where your healer or ranged has to kite a mob to dodge mechanics and kill them off when required.

I'd be really interested in seeing more fights with a disintegrating or shrinking arena (I'm hoping that P1S turns out this way) forcing you to reposition your team safely while maintaining good uptime. Or perhaps moving traps like A7S' cat phases.

I'm curious as to everyone's opinion on additional punishment mechanics for tanks in general. In some MMOs, for instance, on certain attacks you'd see damage thresholds beyond which an additional effect would be inflicted. For instance, if one didn't manage to mitigate... <Generic T-Rex Bite> to under X damage, it'd also inflict, say, an Armor Break / Defense Down / Vulnerability (Physical) Up debuff.

Would such mechanics add anything, or should any such attack have just been lethal without mitigation anyways, making them effectively just flavor text outside of lower-difficulty version (where they might be a less punishing [more recovererable] but still seemingly threatening form of more generic, deadlier tank-busters)?