RDM Verflare Upgrade Visuals?

So for the action trailer for EW... is the thunder looking big aoe supposed to be verflare? Cause if so... whys it look like a verthunder 3... and not at all resembles flare. Current verflare is simple its just a small ish flare with even smaller ones around it but it looks like its namesake.

The new stuff is cool but man if that is supposed to be verlfare... who looked at that and said "ye totally looks like a flare and not a thunder move!" especially when verholy 2 looks idk... holy like lol

There is zero chance that that is Verflare, given they use Jolt 2 just before. It looks to be an upgraded Verthunder, which should mean an upgraded Veraero to go along with it.

Man I hope cause I saw people calling it flare and m like... that has lighting in it so probably just people assuming "well they showed verholy 2 so that last one was verflare" like it did use the new gauge but its likely used in the flare/holys as well as being able to use them for upgraded aoe aero/thunder since you get the gauge off of the aoe melee too so yea thats likely it. So we are getting upgrades to 4 skills in flare/holy and aero/thunder aoes.

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Originally Posted by Mikey_R

There is zero chance that that is Verflare, given they use Jolt 2 just before. It looks to be an upgraded Verthunder, which should mean an upgraded Veraero to go along with it.

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For what I understood, it seems we get a proper AoE combo.

We see Verthunder+Impact then three times Enchanted Moulinet, which gives three "red charges". Then, we see the red mage use Impact on a shorter cast then this upgraded version of Verthunder.

It seems these charges allow you to use upgraded spells. Meaning you can potentially go to your Single Target spell combo after three moulinets, or go to your AoE combo after the Riposte, Zwerchau, Redoublement.

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Originally Posted by NealSnow

"well they showed verholy 2 so that last one was verflare" like it did use the new gauge but its likely used in the flare/holys as well as being able to use them for upgraded aoe aero/thunder since you get the gauge off of the aoe melee too so yea thats likely it.

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Originally Posted by GrimGale

It seems these charges allow you to use upgraded spells.

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No, the gauge emptied because the combo broke. They cast Jolt instead of using a Verflare or Verholy, and the gauge was wasted. That gauge just tracks melee combo execution, so it would make sense for it to drain if a combo goes incomplete. Not every mechanic demonstration in a job action trailer is a demo of mechanics executing completely. For example, the first time RPR uses their gate step, they let it time out instead of returning to the gate. Then later they use the gate step and do return to it. This is the same. They show the RDM combo gauge, waste it, then fill it back up for a proper use. Insofar as it being a spendable gauge, it is not. It's just a visual indicator tracking that you did a 1-2-3 of either Moulinet-Moulinet-Moulinet or Riposte-Zwerchhau-Redoublement

The lightning spell that followed Jolt is most likely just a traited up Verthunder.

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Originally Posted by GrimGale

It seems these charges allow you to use upgraded spells. Meaning you can potentially go to your Single Target spell combo after three moulinets, or go to your AoE combo after the Riposte, Zwerchau, Redoublement.

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That would defeat the whole purpose of making Verholy, Verflare, Scorch, and FlowerSwordLaserThing AoE actions and allowing you to use them after Moulinet-Moulinet-Moulinet.

Looks like a trait upgrade to verthunder 2

yeah probably just a trait at lvl 86 "a new coat of verpaint" and just updates all the spells like verflare/holy/aero etc etc