isnt it time to unify classes/jobs? whats the point of having both of them..

I think its time to remove the classes and just leave a job or rename it all together.
doesnt really make sense after all this time to have a class/job system that adds basically nothing.

Spaghetti code, I guess

ps3 limita*gets shot for overused joke*

I don't understand, what would be the benefit to uniting them?
It would take work, but where's the payoff?
Changing them seems to add basically nothing.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

I don't understand, what would be the benefit to uniting them?
It would take work, but where's the payoff?
Changing them seems to add basically nothing.

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This was my thought as well. At this point in the game, it's probably just not worth taking dev. time to change. They stopped using the class > job transition with new jobs after ARR, so that mostly took care of that problem.

The only thing I do wish is that they would remove classes from being eligible to enter dungeons after level 30. They could have a nice guide pop-up at that point steering people to go do their class/job quests to ensure we're not ending up with higher level lancers/conjurer/gladiators/ect that you see every so often in DF.

smn and sch

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Originally Posted by ItMe

I don't understand, what would be the benefit to uniting them?
It would take work, but where's the payoff?
Changing them seems to add basically nothing.

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I think in a finger snapping vacuum, if we were Thanos lol, you could benefit from having a higher sense of theme sooner (it's not like the class theme is important, because the class identity dies, unlike say FFXI where if you had THF to unlock NIN but you didn't lose THF- I actually can't remember how to unlock NIN though so don't quote that THF / NIN haha). Like to be honest I don't give a kweh, :p, about any of the "classes" in terms of gameplay fantasy or their representations for my character (my character is a Paladin, not a Gladiator, any remnant of gladiator just distracts from being 'Paladin'), they don't represent a fantasy I'm greatly interested in- yet the jobs I quite like. Now the jobs tend to morph the classes a lot already so for the most part it's not really important to snap the fingers, there are not really too many remnants in most jobs as jobs do change skills up over time, and when you exit the vacuum where suddenly you do have a lot of work if you had wanted to do it differently than the morphing that FFXIV already does (particularly all the lore that is going to get wacked).. I can see it not worth it.

Though I do like to see the job passives that 'reclaim' class territory and change it into job territory.

Part reason why I would like to see the cross class skills go. We used to have leeches for Scholar and Esuna for White Mage with magic effects and names that theme'd to the job. Yes they did the same thing mechanically but the job felt more of a unit because of it, now it's just fragments of a system of choice that we've no choice in anymore. Also I'm sure there are a few moments where those similar skills might get a tiny bit of mechanical difference too (some core skills that HAVE to be the same due to balance get to at least have a theme'd visual, name, icon, but there may be a few skills occasionally that actually get to go one step farther with minor differences too).

That isn't to say the whole idea of cross class skills and sub job things can't be fun, but in this current game I don't think it adds much. Sure maybe someone who is really really new to games might be like Oh I know provoke icon, but.. like... if you just read the description you'd also know it's provoke.. It'd be like saying all the healers need the same named healing spells because otherwise the player wont understand heal potency 100 is a healing spell because it's name is Benefic instead of Cure I.

Simply remove the ability to equip any gear above level 45 unless you have a job stone equipped

Just make classes unable to queue for any duties above level 30 unless they're in a full premade. Then throw a huge (and I mean HUGE) sign in the player's face telling them that they need to go back to their class instructor to get their Soul Crystal after the Sylph portion of the MSQ is completed.

That way no one will have to deal with telling people to get their soul crystals at level 50, or in some serious fringe cases, level 80.

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Originally Posted by DarkB

I think its time to remove the classes and just leave a job or rename it all together.
doesn't really make sense after all this time to have a class/job system that adds basically nothing.

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i don't know...haven't they removed some class requirement mix before? I know that the todays level progress its not like ARR classic. the class/job mixture its inspired in final fantasy tactics. I don't like the rename cause will basically... its like asking to final fantasy don't be final fantasy. maybe its better create another mmo with another name than chance core aspect of final fantasy trademark. besides, today ff14 its a huge success, its not wise change a game that is in its top notch success. like in soccer...you dont chance formation of a team while its winning the game.