Increase allowed time to obtain rewards after primal fights.

Ok so I am sure this has probably happened to more then just myself here.

Was doing Ifrit, Had no issues the whole fight. Both WHM's got stung by unlucky cracks in the last 2% of the battle. Ifrit fell to the ground the same time WHM's did. Immediately the BLM's switched to THM (why they were not on THM to begin with I dont know) and it was a race against the timeout clock & the raise recast (upon changing jobs) for a few people in our party to obtain rewards.

Simple math shows that this just isn't possible under the current circumstances. 5 min timeout counter vs. 5 min raise recast timer.

While a handful of people are going to reply and say "well your BLM should have been on THM" or "both your WHM's shouldn't have died" - well stuff happens so move on.

Still believe that it was wrong to defeat a primal with no issues and 80% of your party still standing - yet those people cannot obtain the rewards on defeat due to waiting for a recast timer.

A few solutions would be-
a) Increase the post-fight time out to 7-10 minutes, instead of 5 minutes (so it is easily possible for someone to change jobs and raise if required).
b) Automatically open the chest for characters that are KO'd.
c) Reduce raise timer (Which I doubt will happen).

Anyway, my preferred option would quite simply increase the post-fight duration to 10 minutes, which gives people easily enough time to cast Raise at least once after their timer is reset.

Defeating a primal and it not literally possible for those KO'd to obtain rewards in this particular situation is just stupid.

In saying this - it goes for all current & future primal / battlefield style fights, not just the current ones. I am sure that fights are going to become more challenging as time goes on and that extra 5 minutes post battle will be a huge advantage.

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Originally Posted by Altena

well stuff happens so move on.

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This is the only suitable response to what you said, so i quote you against you! (You dont lose your lamp, just go back in again)

easy fix if anyone is dead when the primal is dead raise everyone as long as there 1 person alive while the primal is dead i don't see a issue giving everyone a raise.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

easy fix if anyone is dead when the primal is dead raise everyone as long as there 1 person alive while the primal is dead i don't see a issue giving everyone a raise.

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The issue is if no one has raise, you cant switch, the cooldown is 5 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Altena

(why they were not on THM to begin with I dont know)

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You need thm to win Ifrit with no wipes? You are pro!

/tosses dead person a Phoenix Down


Why cant we have these again??
Gives alchemists more useful recipes rather than chain crafting fish/sand/etc
People would sink money into these (aka gil sink)
Saves frustration

Yeah so I knew this would spark up a few of the undesired posts. Well :

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This is the only suitable response to what you said, so i quote you against you! (You dont lose your lamp, just go back in again)

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Ok let's assume new content is released... Hmm Bahamut - You take 3 weeks fight after fight after fight trying to defeat him. You then finally defeat him but a similar situation like this happens. Would you be impressed that you didn't recieve your reward because of the inability to be raised after the fight is over?

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The issue is if no one has raise, you cant switch, the cooldown is 5 minutes.

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^ This. It would not be a difficult or "overpowered" solution to allow more time for raises / post-battle lobbying. If the jobs that happen to have raise are dead, the only option is for another class to switch. Raise timer being 5 mins, lobby timer being 5 mins - it isn't possible to get someone up and recieve rewards.

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You need thm to win Ifrit with no wipes? You are pro!

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It is not about needs, it is a known fact that THM is more effective in the fight then a BLM.



Why are people contesting this? It is going to happen more then this "special" case, if it hasn't already happened. In Ifrit, Moogle, Garuda - and ANY other battlefield event to come. Losing rewards after victory because of a spell timer is dumb. Not to mention this *doesn't* affect you if it doesn't happen to you - so why would you care / fight for the post-fight lobby time not to be increased?

Easiest way to fix this that people seem to ignore:

Remove the Recast on Raise when not in combat.....why it needs a Recast out of combat situations seems stupid to me, but whatever!

I do agree with this, timeout should be higher than rase racast just incase, but you could also ask your members to bring raise potions from GCs incase this happens. I have seen something similar and members loosing drops because of it as well.

As Blaize said, the REAL issue here is Raise recast being reset every time you equip/unequip.
They should make it so recast timer only starts if you cast the spell. To prevent abuse of other abilities, Raise could be the only spell that works like this.