Gil making advice

Hello everyone,

Basically just picked up mining & crafting isn’t my forte, but I would to know if you can generate as much Gil by simply gathering mats that’s in demand for the crafting professions?

Would Botanist & Fishing help as much?

I am not to knowledgeable with the MB’s affairs & find it overwhelming to understand its system other than just selling.

Would much appreciate any tips

Weaver is pretty good money maker end game.

Gathering your daily map and selling that could help - even better if you clear the map yourself and sell rare mats (if you're lucky enough to get the drops...).

Gathering in diadem and selling both the mats aswell as using your skybuilder scrips to buy other stuff (dyes, mounts, pets, emotes...) could be helpful aswell.

Getting into aethrial reduction to get the current aether sand might be worth a look, too.

Other than that: Take the time to check what you can gather and for how much it currently sells. Everything miner can gather can be used for crafts - open your gathering log and compare with the market board.

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Originally Posted by Vencio

Hello everyone,

Basically just picked up mining & crafting isn’t my forte, but I would to know if you can generate as much Gil by simply gathering mats that’s in demand for the crafting professions?

Would Botanist & Fishing help as much?

I am not to knowledgeable with the MB’s affairs & find it overwhelming to understand its system other than just selling.

Would much appreciate any tips

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Can you generate a lot of gil? Sure. Will it be as much gil for the same time investment as a crafter? No. There are too many gathering bots flooding the MB.

Botanist has about the same potential as mining if you keep an eye on the marketboard for current prices and go after what's currently in demand.

I would avoid fishing for making gil. SE has turned it into more of a hobby than a useful gathering class, and the RNG for what little crafters want to buy gets annoying at times.

Sounds likes you understand the marketboard itself - it's there for players to sell to other players. The hard part is figuring out what other players want to buy and what they're willing to pay for those items.

If you don't want to get into researching prices, the level 60 materials gathered in Diadem are consistent sellers because so many players use the Restoration for leveling crafting jobs. Don't worry about which is the best seller since you can't control what you get. Just gather whatever level 60 material appears on a node.

As Vidu said, don't forget to gather your daily map if you have maps unlocked (you can pick up the quest in Wineport if you haven't done it yet). Search the MB for "timeworn" so you can check current map prices then go to nodes that drop the most valuable ones.
Leather, Goatskin, Toadskin, Boarskin and Peisteskin - level 40-50 nodes
Archaeoskin, Wyvernskin and Dragonskin - level 60 nodes
Gaganaskin and Gazelleskin - level 70 nodes
Gliderskin and Zonureskin - level 80 nodes

If you want to go the Aetherial Reduction route, check MB prices carefully first to see which Aethersands are going for good prices and being purchased on a daily basis. Some of them are almost never used anymore. Dawnborne (HW) is sometimes a good choice because it's needed for some of the level 60 crafting quest and GC supply items, and the bots aren't always gathering it. The ShB Aethersands are heavily botted so double check the MB prices before you gather those to make sure it's going to be worth your time.

If you're willing to give crafting a try, Coffee Biscuit leves are the current popular way to make a decent chunk of gil for little time investment. A week's worth of leve allowances is worth about 750k gil and it only takes about 90 minutes to gather, craft and turn in. As long as you do the crafting and gathering yourself, it completely bypasses the MB so you don't have to worry about other players cutting into your profit.

Other people gave good advice for the low hanging fruit. I am going to explain the MB a bit more to give a picture of why this sorta advice is hard.

A big issue with any method of making money via the MB is that the MB is the most 'competitive' element of the game. Not everyone can be a winner there. While its true any given item may have an extremely good profit margin there, that isn't the only factor to think of in MB sales. If it was, I could say "Oh yeah nab a bunch of X and just sell it." A second critical element of the MB is how much demand there is, meaning not only am I discouraged from sharing info, my info can get out of date very quickly as everyone who wants something nabs it.

This is doubly hard for a gatherer, as the barrier of entry for a gatherer is way lower than a crafter, so markets crash fast. You can certainly make money on key stuff that people are using, but it won't be very much very fast. Worse, almost every crafter is also a gatherer, and while they are willing to buy items they need if its faster and will save them money because time=money, often times the profit-time ratio for the gatherer on truly 'staple' gathers is awful.

So you need to understand the MB at least a bit. Here are a few good practices to making cash and staying flexible.

1: Try to understand how an item is used. If an item literally only ever is used in a given number, sell in that number unless the item drops in a way where someone might want to just 'complete the set.' Understand if the item in question will have ongoing demand from even endgame crafters or if its a springboard. Take notes on what sells and when, check the past sales and make sure your not getting taken for a ride.

2: Look for things players might struggle to get themselves, either because its hard (ex: HQ stuff for job quests), or because its just a pain (Ex: A hidden item in a node). These items bypass the 'flood' effect of how common gatherers are and are good Gil to time simply because getting a stack of these is a pain in the butt. So they can be very good gil to time

3: Don't overflood a given market. If you have 99 of something that sells in batches of 4, don't drop 99 of them, or put each one up on your retainer all at once. That is a good way to dramatically flood the market and crash it, ESPECIALLY with lower level items.

4: Don't dramatically undercut unless you want to crash the market. Try to restrain yourself and just undercut by 1 gil, unless you want to dump products rather than bother with them anymore (again, time is money, so micromanaging something that isn't worth your time is costing you cash, so it isn't lazy to do this). Then undercut by a *lot* so people will just buy what you have and add it to their stock.

5: Related to 4: If someone undercuts a stable market by a lot, and you know that item sells well, don't match their pice, just but it and add it to your stock.